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    Hello guys (been a while) hope everyone is doing good.

    So the issue is i got some video files recorded with a sony A7IV camera, and when i load them on vegas 13 i only get sound but no video,
    the video appears green on vegas, now, i have tried to rename this "coumpodplug.dll" but it doesn't work... my best guess is there's some kind of codec causing an issue.

    The laptop i work on:



    i7 2.5ghz 4710HQ
    16GB ram
    nvidia geforce 840M


    On this laptop VLC can't play the videos and MPC can barely handle them... now check this, i have a desktop as well:


    intel core duo 6600 2.4ghz
    8gb ram
    nvidia geforce gtx 570 - 4gb


    I don't do any editing on this machine but the video files play great on both VLC and MPC, so WTH????!!!!!!


    I did some research on the web but didn't find anything related to my issue, so hopefully some of you could shed some light on the matter, my vegas version 13, built 310, 64bits.


    Thank you so much for your advice and time.
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  2. 4:2:2 and/or 10 bit avc is probably the problem. Not many decoders, especially hardware decoders, support that.
    https://pro.sony/ue_US/technology/xavc

    MediaInfo can tell what the properties are. For example:

    Code:
    General
    Complete name                            : C:\A001C005_131026S1.MXF
    Format                                   : MXF
    Format version                           : 1.3
    Format profile                           : OP-1a
    Format settings                          : Closed / Complete
    File size                                : 107 MiB
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Overall bit rate                         : 102 Mb/s
    Encoded date                             : 2013-10-29 13:27:50.000
    Writing application                      : Sony util 1.00
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 2
    Format                                   : AVC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                           : High 4:2:2 Intra@L4.2
    Format settings, CABAC                   : No
    Format settings, GOP                     : N=1
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102106001-0401020201323001
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate                                 : 92.5 Mb/s
    Maximum bit rate                         : 88.9 Mb/s
    Width                                    : 2 048 pixels
    Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 1.896
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
    Bit depth                                : 10 bits
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 1.744
    Stream size                              : 97.5 MiB (91%)
    Color range                              : Limited
    Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
    
    Audio #1
    ID                                       : 3
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Audio #2
    ID                                       : 4
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Audio #3
    ID                                       : 5
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Audio #4
    ID                                       : 6
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Audio #5
    ID                                       : 7
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Audio #6
    ID                                       : 8
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Audio #7
    ID                                       : 9
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Audio #8
    ID                                       : 10
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Other #1
    ID                                       : 1-Material
    Type                                     : Time code
    Format                                   : MXF TC
    Frame rate                               : 24.000 FPS
    Time code of first frame                 : 00:04:16:20
    Time code of last frame                  : 00:04:25:15
    Time code settings                       : Material Package
    Time code, striped                       : Yes
    
    Other #2
    ID                                       : 1-Source
    Type                                     : Time code
    Format                                   : MXF TC
    Frame rate                               : 24.000 FPS
    Time code of first frame                 : 00:04:16:20
    Time code of last frame                  : 00:04:25:15
    Time code settings                       : Source Package
    Time code, striped                       : Yes
    
    Other #3
    ID                                       : 11
    Format                                   : Acquisition Metadata
    Muxing mode                              : Ancillary data / RDD 18
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS
    CaptureGammaEquation_FirstFrame          : BT.709
    MacroSetting_FirstFrame                  : Off
    OpticalExtenderMagnification_FirstFrame  : 100%
    AutoExposureMode_FirstFrame              : Manual
    NeutralDensityFilterWheelSetting_FirstFr : 1/8
    ImageSensorDimensionEffectiveWidth_First : 24.003 mm
    ImageSensorDimensionEffectiveHeight_Firs : 12.658 mm
    CaptureFrameRate_FirstFrame              : 23.976 fps
    ImageSensorReadoutMode_FirstFrame        : Progressive frame
    ShutterSpeed_Angle_FirstFrame            : 181.0°
    ShutterSpeed_Time_FirstFrame             : 1/48 s
    CameraMasterGainAdjustment_FirstFrame    : 0.00 dB
    ISOSensitivity_FirstFrame                : 800
    ElectricalExtenderMagnification_FirstFra : 100%
    AutoWhiteBalanceMode_FirstFrame          : Preset
    WhiteBalance_FirstFrame                  : 5326 K
    CameraMasterBlackLevel_FirstFrame        : 3.0%
    ExposureIndexofPhotoMeter_FirstFrame     : 800
    GammaForCDL_FirstFrame                   : Same as Capture Gamma
    ASC_CDL_V12_FirstFrame                   : sR=1.0 sG=1.0 sB=1.0 oR=0.0 oG=0.0 oB=0.0 pR=1.0 pG=1.0 pB=1.0 sat=1.0
    
    Other #4
    Type                                     : Time code
    Format                                   : SMPTE TC
    Muxing mode                              : SDTI
    Frame rate                               : 24.000 FPS
    Time code of first frame                 : 00:04:16:20
    Found a few downloadable samples here:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20150905011151/https://zsyst.com/2013/06/sony4k-sample-footage/
    Last edited by jagabo; 12th Jun 2023 at 18:34.
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    also could be vegas 13 is just too old to support it, especially if it isn't vegas pro. it's fairly ancient at about 10 years old. it was still a sony product back then.
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    4:2:2 and/or 10 bit avc is probably the problem. Not many decoders, especially hardware decoders, support that.
    https://pro.sony/ue_US/technology/xavc

    MediaInfo can tell what the properties are. For example:

    Code:
    General
    Complete name                            : C:\A001C005_131026S1.MXF
    Format                                   : MXF
    Format version                           : 1.3
    Format profile                           : OP-1a
    Format settings                          : Closed / Complete
    File size                                : 107 MiB
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Overall bit rate                         : 102 Mb/s
    Encoded date                             : 2013-10-29 13:27:50.000
    Writing application                      : Sony util 1.00
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 2
    Format                                   : AVC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                           : High 4:2:2 Intra@L4.2
    Format settings, CABAC                   : No
    Format settings, GOP                     : N=1
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102106001-0401020201323001
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate                                 : 92.5 Mb/s
    Maximum bit rate                         : 88.9 Mb/s
    Width                                    : 2 048 pixels
    Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 1.896
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
    Bit depth                                : 10 bits
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 1.744
    Stream size                              : 97.5 MiB (91%)
    Color range                              : Limited
    Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
    
    Audio #1
    ID                                       : 3
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Audio #2
    ID                                       : 4
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Audio #3
    ID                                       : 5
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Audio #4
    ID                                       : 6
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Audio #5
    ID                                       : 7
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Audio #6
    ID                                       : 8
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Audio #7
    ID                                       : 9
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Audio #8
    ID                                       : 10
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings                          : Little
    Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
    Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS (2002 SPF)
    Bit depth                                : 24 bits
    Stream size                              : 1.21 MiB (1%)
    Locked                                   : Yes
    
    Other #1
    ID                                       : 1-Material
    Type                                     : Time code
    Format                                   : MXF TC
    Frame rate                               : 24.000 FPS
    Time code of first frame                 : 00:04:16:20
    Time code of last frame                  : 00:04:25:15
    Time code settings                       : Material Package
    Time code, striped                       : Yes
    
    Other #2
    ID                                       : 1-Source
    Type                                     : Time code
    Format                                   : MXF TC
    Frame rate                               : 24.000 FPS
    Time code of first frame                 : 00:04:16:20
    Time code of last frame                  : 00:04:25:15
    Time code settings                       : Source Package
    Time code, striped                       : Yes
    
    Other #3
    ID                                       : 11
    Format                                   : Acquisition Metadata
    Muxing mode                              : Ancillary data / RDD 18
    Duration                                 : 8 s 842 ms
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 FPS
    CaptureGammaEquation_FirstFrame          : BT.709
    MacroSetting_FirstFrame                  : Off
    OpticalExtenderMagnification_FirstFrame  : 100%
    AutoExposureMode_FirstFrame              : Manual
    NeutralDensityFilterWheelSetting_FirstFr : 1/8
    ImageSensorDimensionEffectiveWidth_First : 24.003 mm
    ImageSensorDimensionEffectiveHeight_Firs : 12.658 mm
    CaptureFrameRate_FirstFrame              : 23.976 fps
    ImageSensorReadoutMode_FirstFrame        : Progressive frame
    ShutterSpeed_Angle_FirstFrame            : 181.0°
    ShutterSpeed_Time_FirstFrame             : 1/48 s
    CameraMasterGainAdjustment_FirstFrame    : 0.00 dB
    ISOSensitivity_FirstFrame                : 800
    ElectricalExtenderMagnification_FirstFra : 100%
    AutoWhiteBalanceMode_FirstFrame          : Preset
    WhiteBalance_FirstFrame                  : 5326 K
    CameraMasterBlackLevel_FirstFrame        : 3.0%
    ExposureIndexofPhotoMeter_FirstFrame     : 800
    GammaForCDL_FirstFrame                   : Same as Capture Gamma
    ASC_CDL_V12_FirstFrame                   : sR=1.0 sG=1.0 sB=1.0 oR=0.0 oG=0.0 oB=0.0 pR=1.0 pG=1.0 pB=1.0 sat=1.0
    
    Other #4
    Type                                     : Time code
    Format                                   : SMPTE TC
    Muxing mode                              : SDTI
    Frame rate                               : 24.000 FPS
    Time code of first frame                 : 00:04:16:20
    Found a few downloadable samples here:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20150905011151/https://zsyst.com/2013/06/sony4k-sample-footage/


    Hey thanks, this is what i get from mediainfo:





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    Originally Posted by aedipuss View Post
    also could be vegas 13 is just too old to support it, especially if it isn't vegas pro. it's fairly ancient at about 10 years old. it was still a sony product back then.

    Hey thanks, it's vegas pro 13, unfortunately i'm (still) running Win7 and since i can't upgrade i'd need to find a solution which allows me to use this version of vegas...
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    you could try converting it first to a lossless codec like huffyuv or ut lossless. then vegas might accept that.
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  7. If it's the MXF container that Vegas doesn't like you can try a quick remux to mov with ffmpeg:

    Code:
    ffmpeg -i xavc.mxf -c copy output.mov
    If it's 4:2:2 and 10 bits Vegas doesn't like you can reencode as 8 bit 4:2:0:

    Code:
    ffmpeg -i xavc.mxf -pix_fmt yuv420p -crf 10 avc.mp4
    Use a lower crf value for higher quality (bigger files), higher crf values for lower quality (smaller files). crf 10 is very high quality, better than your typical Blu-ray. Of course this will lose some quality from the reencoding and conversion to 4:2:0 and 8 bits. Audio will be encoded as aac. If you want to retain the original audio you have to use mov instead of mp4:

    Code:
    ffmpeg -i xavc.mxf -pix_fmt yuv420p -crf 10 -c:a copy avc.mov
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    Hey, thanks guys !! will try some of those and see how it goes...

    cheers
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