Jumpy Video

[wee haggis]

When I have made VCD's using several of the suggested templates(including TMPGE's,Sefy,Kwag,etc,etc) I seem to always end up with a VCD that every 10 minutes or so jumps at high speed for about 2 seconds.out-sync's the audio then goes back to normal again.
Probably 8 or 10 times during amovie.It does'nt seem to matter the settings I've tried (whether it be 1300 or 2300 bitrate).
I usually stick to the two cd method so i use the calculator religously.
(not that it makes much difference,still jumps and tends to be a bit blocky).My GE DVD is on the compatable list for Xvcd's.
Geez...I wish just once I could get a VCD that is even close to the quality of the Divx I converted it from!!

[Sefy]

Usually the main cause of jumpy video is the Field Order, try switching it and see how that works for you.

[wee haggis]

Thanks Sefy...
Wo'nt the Field Order only work if its Interlaced?

[jledhead]

what speed are you burning these at??? because I was having the same problem when I burned at 24X, now I burn svcd and vcd at 8X and the results are much better

[Sefy]

Well, considering most people who have problem with Shaky Video are those who use MPEG2 and that is usually Non-Interlaced, i'd say it works on both, for best results, use the Wizard mode in TMPGEnc and let it select the correct Field Order

jledhead, the speed of burn isn't always the case as much as the CDR media itself, i've been burning at 16x all my movies, and no problem as of yet, but I buy high quality brand media, most people buy brandless.

[VCD-Trading]

Yep, Probably cheap Blank CDRs...





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[Sefy]

VCD-Trading, i'm been following your posts, and I can understand your point of view from a salesperson, but you are not really offering any help except selling your equipment.

Now your equipment may be great for those who just want to make backups, but it's a non-flexiable equipment and doesn't provide everyone with the same solution, and you are also forgeting it uses CDR's just like everything else, so if a PC has a bad result due to a CDR, the same will happen with the recording device.

If you do not wish to to offer real help, then please stop with these free commercials you are doing, unless you are getting specific permission from Baldrick.

[Bluez]

i'm not certified and i'm not selling vcd recorders, but i can confirm that cd's burned at higher speeds (and not only cheap blanks!!) are sometimes not swallowed by dvd players... also the type of player and the type of burner you have could cause problems...

for example, with my plexter 1210 (that is no more) i could burn lenco blanks at max speed (12x i believe) that my lenco dvd player would swallow.... with my current liteon burner, i can't burn lenco blanks, unless i switch of smart-x and burn at max 8x)... but the liteon burns other blacks at 16 or higher and the lenco player eats them without any problems!

you figure it out... i just lower the speed when problems occur, and it solved any problem on any player that i dealt with thus far...

[wee haggis]

I'm burning at 8x on my Matsushita and it never fails or spits anything out .I'm using Memorex blanks and playing the finished product on a GE DVD (on the compatable list).
So,the problem is not eveident in the burning process but when played back on DVD and it does'nt always happen(ie:I have about 80 burns under my belt....I have jumps on about half of them....some with 2 or 3 and some with every few seconds...the latter is when I made the mistake of trying a template recommended by one of the "put a full 120min video on 1 CD "brigade!!).Admittedly,I do experiment a lot with settings and templates and the quality of the input files varies,but I can;t seem to put my finger on the problem.
One last thing,i ve tried an identical movie using VCD and SVCD templates and it still jumps on both even although the original DIVX is fabulous ,non jumping quality.

[kwag]

VCD-Trading, i'm been following your posts, and I can understand your point of view from a salesperson, but you are not really offering any help except selling your equipment.

Now your equipment may be great for those who just want to make backups, but it's a non-flexiable equipment and doesn't provide everyone with the same solution, and you are also forgeting it uses CDR's just like everything else, so if a PC has a bad result due to a CDR, the same will happen with the recording device.

If you do not wish to to offer real help, then please stop with these free commercials you are doing, unless you are getting specific permission from Baldrick.

Hi Sefy!

Not to mention that the Terapin captures only ONE field! So you know what the result are :P

I bought one about 5 months ago, and after doing a couple of VCD's, I shipped it back the next day faster that I had ordered it

It uses the same chip set ( the Winbond W99200 Series ) as the PV231 capture board ( which I also tossed away the day after I got it ).

Those little details is what most people don't know, so it's good to bring them up

kwag

[Sefy]

So basicly buying that Terrapin and a Video Capture card will give you the same thing

[DVantrease]

wee hagis, I've seen the exact same 'jump' you refered to. I see it once maybe twice a movie, nothing major. Once as soon as I saw it, I rewound 20 seconds and played the same scene again, and this time it didn't jump. I guess its just some periodic thing while reading the media, its obviously not related to the conversion. Also I always record at 2x on brandname media.