I want to take video and mash it up and put it with my own song

[nilojones]

Hello,
I have been searching for this for 2 days now and have no answers. It would be great if someone could point me in the right direction.

I want to take video and mash it up and put it with my own song. I am thinking that as i own cubase 4 to make music, and have researched and found out that video can be synced via midi time code, i would be able to chop up a video (in powerdirector for example) and create music in cubase simultaneously. So if i chop a section of video to grab a voice and loop it in a video editor, i could jump to cubase and fiddle with the beats, ultimately creating two files; then import the video and audio and sync them up in the video editor to create a final video - i am unsure if i am explaining myself very well. Similar to that of 'buttery biscuit base on you tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMg3epr53Ns
I am confused so what i said above may not be the best way to do it?
If not how would i go about it? Surely he did not make the song and then cut the video to match?

Thanks for any pointers

[smrpix]

Surely he did not make the song and then cut the video to match?

That's how I would do it. All they're "matching" is the beat. Maybe they added some additional instrumentation later

[nilojones]

@smrpix: wow, ok then - i will get going! I will record the samples, make the track in cubase. Import that into powerdirector and then put the video clips back on top to match my samples; for some reason i just thought it might be easier. Thanks v much

[smrpix]

I wouldn't pull the audio samples into Cubase. I would lay the basic music music track into an NLE -- Vegas, Premiere (okay, I would use Avid)

edit: Power Director should be fine too.

then cut the synced audio/video source on to a new audio and video track. You can even make short subclips "butter" for quick multiple reuse.

Once it's all cut, export to cubase (Pro-Tools, Audition) for final audio tweaking.

[Cornucopia]

Some match picture to music (editing on the beat), some match music to picture (timing the loops or tempo to scenes). None of it's automatic. It's usually done in one main app: a DAW with simple video editing tools or an NLE with good audio adjustment tools.

Scott

[nilojones]

Thanks for the advice
NLE - non linear editing; i did not know that and now do.

I make tracks in cubase normally, so i guess i will 'match video to the track' and place the video in unison with the samples i choose to use. I think i had it in my mind that i would be able to use the midi time code as a guide to snap points; but i see that is wrong now. I thought basically that i would be able to snip in in the NLE, switch to the daw and the cursor would be in exactly the correct place to snip the audio (after having previously synced up the two sources) - i said i was confused, lol.

I know cubase, so in terms of workflow, i feel that would be the best place to start for me.

Thanks again for the great advice. Time to get creative

[nilojones]

Well, just to report back...

I made my first video and my chosen method of music first was a mistake, lol. I should have listened to this:

"smrpix

I wouldn't pull the audio samples into Cubase. I would lay the basic music music track into an NLE -- Vegas, Premiere (okay, I would use Avid)

edit: Power Director should be fine too.

then cut the synced audio/video source on to a new audio and video track. You can even make short subclips "butter" for quick multiple reuse.

Once it's all cut, export to cubase (Pro-Tools, Audition) for final audio tweaking."

It was all to complicated in the end and i had to redo all of the samples which fundamentally changed the track anyway. So for anyone else who may be seeing this/ thinking of doing mash ups; listen to the above advice.

For my next one i think i will lay a beat down, import that into vegas (i bought the home studio 12 version in the end (not vegas) - pretty damn comprehensive for a cut down package as far as i can see), lay the samples and then export the audio back into cubase to finish the tune. Thanks for the great advice; if only i had listened. You live and learn.

Cheers

[nilojones]

Double posted, oops.