Philips auto 3d mode. How I can enable that?

[slobadaca]

I buy Philips 40PFL5507 led tv and external hard disc.
I have some 3D sbs video files in mkv that he plays automatic, but some 3D sbs mkv files I must add manually. I don't find difference between those files.
How to enable all mkv 3d sbs files to play automatic?

[slobadaca]

THIS ONE PLAY AUTOMATIC
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 3 / Version 2
File size : 8.27 GiB
Duration : 2h 16mn
Overall bit rate : 8 681 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-10-26 14:30:23
Writing application : mkvmerge v5.5.0 ('Healer') built on Apr 6 2012 21:43:24
Writing library : libebml v1.2.3 + libmatroska v1.3.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
MultiView_Count : 2
MultiView_Layout : Side by Side (left eye first)
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 16mn
Bit rate : 6 999 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.141
Stream size : 6.66 GiB (81%)
Writing library : x264 core 128 r2216 198a7ea
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.10:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=48 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=9 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc=crf / mbtree=0 / crf=16.5 / qcomp=0.80 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / frame-packing=3 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=2:0.85
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Muxing mode : Header stripping
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2h 16mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.44 GiB (17%)
Title : English DTS 5.1
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Text
ID : 3
Format : VobSub
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Title : English
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No


THIS ONE I MUST ENTERED MANUALLY "SIDE BY SIDE" OPTION
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 3 / Version 2
File size : 6.84 GiB
Duration : 1h 33mn
Overall bit rate : 10.5 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-10-04 17:50:10
Writing application : mkvmerge v5.8.0 ('No Sleep / Pillow') built on Sep 2 2012 15:37:04
Writing library : libebml v1.2.3 + libmatroska v1.3.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
MultiView_Count : 2
MultiView_Layout : Side by Side (left eye first)
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 33mn
Bit rate : 9 636 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.194
Stream size : 6.29 GiB (92%)
Title : 1080p.Bluray.H-SBS.X264.ENG.AC3
Writing library : x264 core 128 r2216 198a7ea
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=18 / lookahead_threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=6 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=18.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 33mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 428 MiB (6%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:00:00:00.000
00:05:16.316 : en:00:05:16.316
00:10:51.985 : en:00:10:51.985
00:19:46.310 : en:00:19:46.310
00:27:49.835 : en:00:27:49.835
00:32:50.552 : en:00:32:50.552
00:40:34.974 : en:00:40:34.974
00:46:51.976 : en:00:46:51.976
00:52:00.534 : en:00:52:00.534
00:58:55.157 : en:00:58:55.157
01:00:23.411 : en:01:00:23.411
01:04:19.314 : en:01:04:19.314
01:10:59.672 : en:01:10:59.672
01:15:30.317 : en:01:15:30.317
01:21:09.782 : en:01:21:09.782
01:22:48.630 : en:01:22:48.630

[Cornucopia]

You were lucky that you even got it to do ONE Sbs automatically! Seriously, previously only 3DBD had that capability. Are you sure it DID switch automatically? Because that would be the first instance I had heard of any doing that...

Scott

[slobadaca]

Yes, I am sure. Everytime I play that first mkv it played automatically in 3D.

[Cornucopia]

Can you upload 5-10 second clips (using a non-reencoding editor)?

Scott

[aedipuss]

smelling b.s. that tv doesn't play mkv with dts audio.

[slobadaca]

I convert dts with Popcorn MKV AudioConverter to Ac3.
I will upload tonight.

[Cornucopia]

Please, only upload EXTRACTED clips of original media, not re-encodes or converted files...

Scott

[slobadaca]

I extract clip from MKV with mkvmerge.
Also, I play again this little video clip that I uploaded of a few seconds on my TV to make sure it works and also the TV automatically switches to 3D.
And when I convert dts with Popcorn MKV AudioConverter to Ac3 (I don't touch video file) TV still automatically switches to 3D.

This is the file:
http://uptobox.com/hh4yccfhdkow

[aedipuss]

the file doesn't turn on 3d on a samsung plasma and it doesn't appear to be in any way special compared to other sbs mkv.

[slobadaca]

I know that it doesn't appear to be in any way special compared to other sbs mkv.That's why I made question.
On Philips 40PFL5507 this file really play automatic in 3D. If someone don't believe I can make a video clip on youtube.

[addu]

Before also some 3 weeks back argument concerning this came in this forum and nobody has got answer. I think the answer lies with that talented person who created this mkv.

[slobadaca]

Also I try tonight that MKV to switch to 2D and I got normal 2D picture, not double picture (side by side) like other mkv files have.
That man who create mkv are genius.

[Cornucopia]

Well, what do you know?!!! I stand corrected (and amazed).

I DL'd the file last night and ran it directly (via USB Flashdrive) on my LG 3DTV (internal player app), and it actually did automatically go into (the correct) 3D mode! So we know at least that it is correctly designed, and that there exist some hardware players that correctly display it. That's good news!

I'd love to see the OTHER file that didn't go into 3D mode, as an alternative to do a compare against...

Scott

[slobadaca]

Web are full of them.

[jman98]

Web are full of them.

True, but unhelpful.

Some of our members may object to downloading entire films they did not purchase. If you want to make extracts available of files that don't work, some of our members may be willing to examine them. Personally, I do not care if your problem gets solved or not, but you may care.

[aedipuss]

since it's not using the blu-ray 3d signal about all that's left is the matroska header. some lg tvs must be able to intrepret the mkv header codes. it certainly doesn't work on a samsung. you could try using mkv merge v6.0 on a couple other 3d mkvs and re-write the header codes.

[slobadaca]

No, I try that and nothing happend.