Why Is My Capture Card Deinterlacing My Progressive Video?

[MrBlack]

Every time I record in 480p my capture card(component cables) seems to try to deinterlace it(or something?). When this happens, it results in flickering edges, kind of like aliasing. I'll provide a an example to show you what I;m talking about. Also, I've ran this through MeGUI and it says it's a progressive source. It might have something to do with my capture card converting a 480p signal to serial digital, which it shouldn't be doing but if I can fix this after capturing I'm good. I record with HUFFYUV as well.


Pay attention to the edges of the video(ESPECIALLY the name above the head, it's flickering madness lol). If you need better examples I'll provide them.

[Cauptain]

Whats capture card? Whats program use to capture?

Strange because my 480p captures are 59.94 or 60 fps, never 29.97 or 30 fps.


Claudio

[edDV]

Also what is the source format? True 480p/60? Or a 30p camera format? Does the capture card support 30p?

[aedipuss]

doesn't even look like a capture problem to me. more like low-res game console output.

[MrBlack]

Thanks for the replies, I use this capture card http://image.ec21.com/image/videoware/oimg_GC01203241_CA05625112/USB_2_0_HD_AV_Grabber_YPBPR.jpg

I record with Virtualdub and the device supports 480p because I set my console to 480p(PS3) when playing. It's a weird problem and a weird capture device I know lol, I jut want to see if I can get this thing working properly before a new capture card (probably an HD PVR).

EDIT: Is there anyway I can tell if it's being deinterlaced or not?

[Cauptain]

Thanks for the replies, I use this capture card http://image.ec21.com/image/videoware/oimg_GC01203241_CA05625112/USB_2_0_HD_AV_Grabber_YPBPR.jpg

I record with Virtualdub and the device supports 480p because I set my console to 480p(PS3) when playing. It's a weird problem and a weird capture device I know lol, I jut want to see if I can get this thing working properly before a new capture card (probably an HD PVR).

EDIT: Is there anyway I can tell if it's being deinterlaced or not?

Hi MrBlack

Its like ROXIO GAME CAPTURE (480p or 576p in 30/25 fps only).

To make a great capture make this:

- Record in 480i (Set your PS3 to 480i)
- Use UT Video Codec or Lagarith or Huffyuv codec in YUY2 mode.
- Use YADIF BOB deinterlaced (its will make a 60/50 fps file)

Have a very nice file looks like real PS3.

I make this on my RGC, the diference is abissal.



Claudio

[MrBlack]

Thanks for the replies, I use this capture card http://image.ec21.com/image/videoware/oimg_GC01203241_CA05625112/USB_2_0_HD_AV_Grabber_YPBPR.jpg

I record with Virtualdub and the device supports 480p because I set my console to 480p(PS3) when playing. It's a weird problem and a weird capture device I know lol, I jut want to see if I can get this thing working properly before a new capture card (probably an HD PVR).

EDIT: Is there anyway I can tell if it's being deinterlaced or not?

Hi MrBlack

Its like ROXIO GAME CAPTURE (480p or 576p in 30/25 fps only).

To make a great capture make this:

- Record in 480i (Set your PS3 to 480i)
- Use UT Video Codec or Lagarith or Huffyuv codec in YUY2 mode.
- Use YADIF BOB deinterlaced (its will make a 60/50 fps file)

Have a very nice file looks like real PS3.

I make this on my RGC, the diference is abissal.



Claudio

Ha yeah it is! It's actually a newer chipset than Roxio. Funny thing is, I've have done all of the above before(I've been doing that for the past year with my old capture card ). Yeah I don't like YADIF because it leaves too much color ghosting for me. I want to use QTGMC but it takes WAY too long. But still, it would be nice to play in 480p and record. I'm trying to eliminate the use of deinterlacing because upsclaling afterwards is a pain, whereas recording in 480p it upscales just fine.

[aedipuss]

if you use mediainfo in text mode it should give you lots of info on the video.

[MrBlack]

if you use mediainfo in text mode it should give you lots of info on the video.

Alright, here you go.

Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 1.67 GiB
Duration : 3mn 14s
Overall bit rate : 73.8 Mbps

Video
ID : 0
Format : Huffman
Codec ID : HFYU
Duration : 3mn 14s
Bit rate : 72.2 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 3:2
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : RGB
Bit depth : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 6.973
Stream size : 1.64 GiB (98%)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : 1
Duration : 3mn 14s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 35.6 MiB (2%)
Interleave, duration : 500 ms (15.00 video frames)

[Cauptain]

Ha yeah it is! It's actually a newer chipset than Roxio. Funny thing is, I've have done all of the above before(I've been doing that for the past year with my old capture card ). Yeah I don't like YADIF because it leaves too much color ghosting for me. I want to use QTGMC but it takes WAY too long. But still, it would be nice to play in 480p and record. I'm trying to eliminate the use of deinterlacing because upsclaling afterwards is a pain, whereas recording in 480p it upscales just fine.

"YADIF ghosting problem" is fixed if capture in YUY2 mode.

To record/play/preview in full 480p buy AVERTVHD, BMI or COLOSSUS.

No problem upscale video after deinterlaced use SPLINE64 resize.

480p@30 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 480i@480p via yadif bob mode.


RGC 480i



RGC 480P YADIF





Claudio

[Cauptain]

if you use mediainfo in text mode it should give you lots of info on the video.

Alright, here you go.

Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 1.67 GiB
Duration : 3mn 14s
Overall bit rate : 73.8 Mbps

Video
ID : 0
Format : Huffman
Codec ID : HFYU
Duration : 3mn 14s
Bit rate : 72.2 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 3:2
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : RGB
Bit depth : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 6.973
Stream size : 1.64 GiB (98%)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : 1
Duration : 3mn 14s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 35.6 MiB (2%)
Interleave, duration : 500 ms (15.00 video frames)

Use YUY2 only.


Claudio

[MrBlack]

if you use mediainfo in text mode it should give you lots of info on the video.

Alright, here you go.

Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 1.67 GiB
Duration : 3mn 14s
Overall bit rate : 73.8 Mbps

Video
ID : 0
Format : Huffman
Codec ID : HFYU
Duration : 3mn 14s
Bit rate : 72.2 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 3:2
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : RGB
Bit depth : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 6.973
Stream size : 1.64 GiB (98%)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : 1
Duration : 3mn 14s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 35.6 MiB (2%)
Interleave, duration : 500 ms (15.00 video frames)

Use YUY2 only.


Claudio

I have it set to YUY2 when I capture, have no clue why it says that.

@Cauptain Alright I'll try Spline64.

[Cauptain]

I have it set to YUY2 when I capture, have no clue why it says that.

@Cauptain Alright I'll try Spline64.

Its normal in HUFFYUV codec. no problem.

But try UT video codec. Its give real YUY2 file record, look down:

General
Complete name : D:\CAPTURAS\VIRTUALDUB\5556.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 65.5 MiB
Duration : 12s 867ms
Overall bit rate : 42.7 Mbps

Video
ID : 0
Format : YUV
Codec ID : ULY2
Codec ID/Info : Ut Video Lossless Codec
Codec ID/Hint : Ut Video
Duration : 12s 867ms
Bit rate : 41.2 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 3:2
Frame rate : 30.000 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2
Compression mode : Lossless
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 3.973
Stream size : 63.2 MiB (96%)

Months ago I make a guide to make SD in HD file but multiupload is down. I will reup this and post here.


Claudio

[MrBlack]

I have it set to YUY2 when I capture, have no clue why it says that.

@Cauptain Alright I'll try Spline64.

Its normal in HUFFYUV codec. no problem.

But try UT video codec. Its give real YUY2 file record, look down:

General
Complete name : D:\CAPTURAS\VIRTUALDUB\5556.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 65.5 MiB
Duration : 12s 867ms
Overall bit rate : 42.7 Mbps

Video
ID : 0
Format : YUV
Codec ID : ULY2
Codec ID/Info : Ut Video Lossless Codec
Codec ID/Hint : Ut Video
Duration : 12s 867ms
Bit rate : 41.2 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 3:2
Frame rate : 30.000 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2
Compression mode : Lossless
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 3.973
Stream size : 63.2 MiB (96%)

Months ago I make a guide to make SD in HD file but multiupload is down. I will reup this and post here.


Claudio

Okay thanks for your help man.

[Cauptain]

Take here: Make Videos SD to HD



Claudio

[MrBlack]

Take here: Make Videos SD to HD



Claudio

Thank you VERY much, I saw your video on youtube and the quality is amazing man.

[Cauptain]

Thank you VERY much, I saw your video on youtube and the quality is amazing man.

You are welcome MrBlack.


Claudio