JVC GY HD111 - HDV Format - Problem in tape-less Recording on Vostro1014

[aucksy]

I am having problem in live recording from our JVC GY HD111 in HDV Format on my Vostro 1014 with following config:

Core 2 Duo 2.10GHz, 2GB RAM 400MHz (DDR2 800), 320HDD Samsung HM321H1 ATA, Win 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Graphics: Mobile Intel GMA 4500MHD -> 814 Total available graphics memory, 64MB Dedicated Video Memory

I have installed Shark007 codec pack, In Vegas Pro it is giving output in m2t file and Adobe CS 5, its giving mpg2 but in both cases the video has got very disturbing blinking lines... see this video

Where as on my assembled Desktop, everything is working fine.. except Vegas Pro 10 is not detecting the device in HDV mode but CS 5 is doing great job !!
My Desktop has 4GB RAM, and Intel HD graphics 64MB Dedicated and i5 3.33GHz


So plz suggest me. Do i need to improve laptop's RAM (as it is the only option) or this is some codec or software problem or is it with my camera....

[edDV]

Not a RAM problem.

Try to capture with HSVSplit. Try it with and without monitoring checked.

Vegas capture should work but you need to set preferences correctly.

[aucksy]

Will try it once more with preferences

[aedipuss]

looks a lot like a dirty cam head or old multiple use tape.

[aucksy]

looks a lot like a dirty cam head or old multiple use tape.

thanx but cam is working on my desktop and its tape-less recording.....

[aedipuss]

go with eddv's hdvsplit suggestion then, it's all i use for capturing HDV.

weird about the memory card file distortion, does the cam display the "bad spots" while capturing?

[edDV]

Yes HDVSplit. Sorry for the typo.

[aucksy]

weird about the memory card file distortion, does the cam display the "bad spots" while capturing?

cam doesn't display those spots.. only on the capture program's screen.....

And I HAVE TRIED the HDVsplit too... same spots are there on the output file and HDVplit is not showing me any preview......

The only difference between my Desktop and this Vostro1014 regarding tape-less recording is that My desktop has got more Video shared memory coz of its 4GB Ram and laptop has less coz of its 2GB and grossly i see only this as i dont much knowledge...

please suggest solutions......

[aucksy]

Any capture program I am using, the same spots on the output file is there and on the preview also... but not on the cam lcd .....

[aedipuss]

hate to bring it up but what the heck is the shark007 codec pack? i've never needed or used any codec pack. ffdshow is about all i install other than individual codecs as required.

[aucksy]

hate to bring it up but what the heck is the shark007 codec pack? i've never needed or used any codec pack. ffdshow is about all i install other than individual codecs as required.

SO you mean this problem is may be because of Shark007. I will try w/o it too.... but it worls on Desktop with Shark007 installed...

One more thing I have noticed that I am using a 6 to 4 pin firewire cable in my laptop where as I use 6 to 6 pin for desktop... can it be the cause for this...

[edDV]

Not a 4 vs 6 pin issue. Codec pack could be.

Something wrong with that computer. 25 Mb/s is not that difficult to capture. Problem is you are capturing to the OS drive and something else is using that drive. The OS takes priority from other processes including capture. Try turning off all apps and OS processes during capture. Also disable virus checkers and disk indexing.

In the old days of Pentium III laptops, one had to create a custom boot state that tuned off all non-essential processes when capturing. Then you could reboot normally.

Make sure the drive is defragmented and not near full. When the drive fills the remaining clusters are widely spaced on the disk causing disk thrashing. You should be able to hear this.

The incoming video is not a file copy but a live stream. Desktops with two drives can run capture on the second drive without interrupt from the OS.

[aucksy]

i am uninstalling the Shark007 and trying... otherwise... the laptop is brand new and i have not installed many things yet... not even the Norton 360 i have brought for it... will post the result within 5 minutes

[aucksy]

damn it !! there was 100GB unallocated space in the Basic Disk (320GB) which I couldn't allot during OS installation as I didn't get any option for that so I created it with Windows Disk Manager and the Laptop can't boot anymore...

Trying to recover otherwise will come back after reinstalling the OS...

I installed Ultimate 64bit, what do you think which OS should I install now...

[edDV]

32 bit will have less compatibility issues.

64 bit only has advantage for memory >4GB

[aedipuss]

a laptop with only 2GB of shared ram doesn't need a 64 bit os. win7 32 bit would be fine if you have it. make sure to install all motherboard and chipset drivers, otherwise the disk i/o may revert to dual fifo and it's slow.....

[aucksy]

ok thank you so much aedipuss... I have the DVD to install either of 32 or 64 ultimate... I will post Video results after installing everything... thanx again...

[aucksy]

ah !! whats happening I do not know.... i can't boot anymore even after reinstalling the OS... please help.. what can I understand regarding the cause is that The disk previously was basic and now it was converted to Dynamic during partition creation....

[edDV]

ah !! whats happening I do not know.... i can't boot anymore even after reinstalling the OS... please help.. what can I understand regarding the cause is that The disk previously was basic and now it was converted to Dynamic during partition creation....

Use simple partitions. Start over.

Download all the drivers from the Dell site. Worse case you will need to order a restore disc from Dell.

[aucksy]

I used CLEAN ALL command using Windows Recover disk and all DYNAMIC PAIN STUFF was converted to soothing BASIC DISK. Now getting back to HDV Video Prob for which THIS THREAD WAS CREATED....

[aucksy]

After all... the same problem continues... I look back to you brothers... can you identify something....



by the way... you can watch this video in HD

[edDV]

Did you turn off all the OS background processes? Some app or process is taking priority on your C:\ drive.

You could also raise the priority of HDVsplit in Task Manager - Processes. Right click on the process, set prioriy high or realtime. Try that.

[aedipuss]

you might test your hard drive transfer speed with something like hd_speed or hd tune to see if something's wrong.

[aucksy]

that Hd speed is asking to destroy all my content in the disk for its test...!!

actually I have tried recording in three different disks.. but the result is same... Are we sure there will be no effect of increasing the shared video memory by increasing RAM....

[aedipuss]

google hard drive speed test and pick another app that just non-destructively tests.

you are capturing the video stream off the cam. it really can't change unless something is really really wrong with the computer at a very low level under windows. is hdvsplit set to stop capture on dropped packets/frames? if so, what it captures is what is coming out of the cam, hdvsplit is just writing it as it receives it to the hard drive.

[edDV]

The data rate coming from the camcorder stream is less than 25% of the drive's sustained spec. The drops result when another process takes control of the drive.

[aucksy]

is hdvsplit set to stop capture on dropped packets/frames? if so, what it captures is what is coming out of the cam, hdvsplit is just writing it as it receives it to the hard drive.

so have tried recording a 2min video with HDVsplit set to stop capture on dropped packets/frames and here is the result...



and please tell me what do i have to do with Hard Disk check, what should look for...

also please suggest if installing xp would solve the problem... i can try that too.... but i think there is no fun in such a simple solution for geeks like you... please help me out.. i need to use this cam and laptop on 10th Dec

[edDV]

I suggest you call Dell support. They will probably advise you to use the restore disk to set it back to factory spec. I've never had this problem while capturing HDV streams.
http://www1.ap.dell.com/in/en/business/notebooks/laptop-vostro-1014/pd.aspx?refid=lapt...s=inbsd1&s=bsd

[aedipuss]

one last suggestion. since you aren't shooting on tape, don't capture from the cam. connect the camera's hard drive to the computer and copy the files off of it.

[aucksy]

please dont make it the last suggestion.. keep giving suggestions aedipuss !

but camera doesn't have any hard disk, i am recording on laptop's hard disk and i have also tried 2 other external HDD....