Processing of Video Recorded with Canon DC 40 PAL Camcorder / Handycam

[reddymravindra]

Hi friends

I want some information on Processing of Video Recorded on mini DVDs in Canon DC 40 PAL Camcorder / Handycam

More information in detail , about camcorder can be found at below links

http://www.canon-asia.com/p/EN/27-Digital-Camcorders/72-DVD/57-DC40/
http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/dvc/data/2005-2006/2006_dc_40.html

As per my knowledge we have two modes Video and VR Mode to Record Video on Mini DVDs (1.4 GB , 30 min , 1x-2x) in MPEG2 Type (3 / 6 / 9 Mbps). XP: 20mins. / Approx. 9Mbps (VBR) , SP: 30mins. / Approx. 6Mbps (VBR)
LP: 60mins. / Approx. 3Mbps (VBR) ,

In Video Mode we get .IFO & .VOB Files
In VR Mode we get .IFO & .VRO Files

I want to copy the Video and mini DVDs to my system and convert them to DivX and play them in DVD & Divx Players with more or less same quality as recorded with highest compression in Players.

I also want to copy the mini dvds to normal dvd with the menus so that i can fit 3-4 mini DVDs to 1 Normal DVD (4.7 GB) and play them on DVD or DivX Players

Kindly suggest me some solutions, Software and Procedures.

[reddymravindra]

I am using DivX Official Software - Divx Plus Converter 8 for converting dvd videos recorded with my camcorder (.VOB) which is taking 1hr30mins to 2hr30mins for converting each mini DVD (1.2GB to 1.4 GB) Video to DivX Home Theatre Profile (DivX) of Video file size of 450-500 MB (45-55mins).

Is there any way to speed up the conversion and decrease the time without effecting the quality much.

Kindly suggest me some tools & Software

[edDV]

The main benefit of Mini DVD camcorders is they record to a DVD compatible MPeg2 format. You can finalize these and play them in a DVD player. You can cut the MPeg2 with minimal loss with a program like Womble VCR.

If you recode to Divx, the quality will be reduced.

[reddymravindra]

Kindly suggest me some tools & software to extract or save chapters or sessions quickly without much processing (encoding / recoding) from dvd videos recorded with camcorder which can be seen in camcorder disc menu playlist.

[jagabo]

Mpg2Cut2 will let you open VOB and VRO files and remux clips into MPG files.

[reddymravindra]

Kindly suggest me some tools & software to encode / recode and to save and compress mini DVD (1.4GB) and DVD (4.7GB) movies / Videos to AVI files which can be played on most of the Commerical DVD Players attached to TV with highest quality and less time.

[reddymravindra]

Kinly provide some info on how to Write DVD Video Files Folder (Copied from DVD) to DVD (Video DVD) in Roxio Creator 2011 Pro & Nero 10 which can be played on most of the DVD Players for playback on TV.

Earlier there was a option to burn DVD-Video Files in the menu or DVD Selection. But now its seems lacking in the latest versions.

[reddymravindra]

I heard that H.264 is a new video codec standard which can achieve high quality video in relatively low bit-rates.

Can i use this codec for converting the mini DVD (1.4GB) and DVD (4.7GB) movies / Videos recorded in camcorder to AVI files and decrease the size of video , which can be played by DVD Player on TV.

Is that possible ? Kindly suggest some software which can do this.

Also does most of the DVD Players on TV does support mp4 with H.264 content and avi with H.264 content .

which one to use , let us know about merits & demerits of using both separately.

Hope almost everyone has the same and many more related questions who are using DVD Camcorders and want to save their videos in highest quality and lowest size which can be played on most of the DVD & DivX Players on TV.

[davexnet]

No, DVD players will not play H264. I don't think any of them do. Some of them will play Xvid OR Divx,
and for that you can encode with AUtoGK or Virtualdub, or similar.

[reddymravindra]

can someone kindly answer all or few of the above unanswered questions in details with more solutions

[jagabo]

I heard that H.264 is a new video codec standard which can achieve high quality video in relatively low bit-rates.

Can i use this codec for converting the mini DVD (1.4GB) and DVD (4.7GB) movies / Videos recorded in camcorder to AVI files and decrease the size of video , which can be played by DVD Player on TV.

The DVD standard is MPEG 1 and MPEG 2 only. Some players will play Divx/Xvid (MPEG 4, part 2) video. I haven't seen any DVD players that will play h.264 (MPEG 4, part 10) encoded video, just media players like the WDTV and Asus O!Play.

Is that possible ? Kindly suggest some software which can do this.

You can encode with h.264 to reduce the size without much loss of quality with programs like Xvid4PSP, MeGUI, Handbrake.

Also does most of the DVD Players on TV does support mp4 with H.264 content and avi with H.264 content .

As far as I know, NO DVD player will play h.264.

which one to use , let us know about merits & demerits of using both separately.

If DVD player compatibility is your goal, h.264 in AVI or MP4 is not suitable.

Hope almost everyone has the same and many more related questions who are using DVD Camcorders and want to save their videos in highest quality and lowest size which can be played on most of the DVD & DivX Players on TV.

You can compress to Divx/Xvid AVI but you will lose a little quality and only Divx/DVD players will play the videos. You also have the issue of camcorder video being interlaced and many player do not support interlaced Divx well. That means you'll need to deinterlace to be safe and that will cause more loss of quality.

Leave your videos as they are, MPEG 2, if you want to retain all the quality.

[reddymravindra]

more solutions are welcome

For storing and playback on computers with same quality as recorded on the mini DVD (1.4GB) with camcorder which code / compression is recommended for less space and same quality,

kindly suggest some tools and software to copy the mini dvds and save them within less space without effecting quality

[reddymravindra]

In DivX Plus Convertor 8.0.0.54, do we have the option of specifying out each file name when we have added 2 or more files for conversion. If yes , how ?

[jagabo]

For storing and playback on computers with same quality as recorded on the mini DVD (1.4GB) with camcorder which code / compression is recommended for less space and same quality,

All high compression codecs will compromise quality. That's how they get high compression. The issue is how noticeable the quality loss is.

As a rough guide Divx/Xvid, with the same frame size as the original, can reduce a progressively encoded DVD to about 1/2 the original size and still maintain good quality. h.264 codecs can compress more, about 1/3 to 1/4 the original size with good quality. Individual videos will vary though.

To get even smaller files you can also reduce the frame size. Smaller frames require less bitrate, so you get smaller files. But what you are doing here is trading away resolution to get fewer compression artifacts. The smaller you make the frame, the smaller you can make the file without introducing compression artifacts, but the fuzzier the image will be when viewed full screen. On top of that, just resizing digital images can introduce artifacts like moire patterns, halos at sharp edges, and jagged edges.

As I mentioned earlier, you have a further problem of starting with interlaced video. Most of those high compression codecs work best with progressive video. Even when they support interlaced video many players will not handle the interlacing correctly. That forces you to deinterlace the video which will further compromise quality.

[edDV]

IMO the deinterlace of camcorder video is the greatest quality killer so long as appropriate bit rates are used for divx/xvid. DVD 480i or 576i (MPeg2) is the quality standard.

The only reason you would use divx/xvid for MiniDVD source would be to fit more minutes to a DVD. Quality would be compromized. With DVDR media prices so low, better in my opinion to put one hour of interlace MPeg2 per DVDR-5 (single layer) disc at full quality.

[reddymravindra]

Thanks friends for your valuable time and suggestions

I want to upload these miniDVD videos to youtube and other streaming sites . As they are very huge (1.4 GB) i am unable to do it with my 256kbps net connection.

Most of the converters and editors are taking more than 2-3 hrs to process 30-45 mins of miniDVD Videos. Is it quite normal ? or i need to tweak in some settings.

Is there any other software which can do much faster which are more are less the same quality. kindly suggest few

kindly suggest me some tools or software through which i can process and upload it to you tube with same or considerable quality in less time and space.

[davexnet]

Conversion is very much dependent on your CPU speed. There are usually some settings in the encdoder that can be tweaked,
but you'll have to go into a bit more detail about what you're doing.