aspect ratio not properly

[lolalustig]

hi, i have ripped a 16:9 movie to my harddisk. the vob files have the 4:3 aspect ratio. i used smartripper. what did i do wrong?

[poopyhead]

what the original vobs look like in powerDVD or winDVD is not an indication of what it will look like after you encode it....i assume u're not just gonna burn the vobs....but anywayz, i've ripped certain movies to where the original movie is widescreen, but the ripped vobs are stretched and plays full screen...also...sometimes when i play the ripped vobs, i heard director commentary or other langauge (i.e. french) rather than the actual movie audio...so no need to worry

[dVripper]

i to have trouble with apsect ratio mine always comes out wrong, but heres my settings

encoding
640x352 (res)
1:1.85 (ratio)

[poopyhead]

dVripper, is that what you put as your source in the encoder or is that what you want your dvd rip to turn out to be?...

anyways, most DVDs r either 16:9 or 4:3....u can use dvd2avi to find out which one your dvd is...also...SVCD is 480x480...that's the standard...

also, don't use the original DVD vobs as an indicator on the aspect ratio of what your DVD rip will come out to be...encode a portion of your dvd rip first and view it...see if you like it...

[lolalustig]

thanx to all of you,

you were right, all i had to do (after hundreds of attempts) was to vary the settings of the encoder, strange anyway, because when i played the vob-files from the dvd using powerdvd in file mode, they were 16:9, the ones from my darddisk 4:3, but as long my svcd turned out bo te what i wanted it to, i am happy without unterstanding why it happens.
thanx again.

[ktnwin]

Can someone tell me exactly what to do to correctly encode the VOB that are 4:3 but supposed to be played as 16:9.
I just rip one last night, on the TV, it looks as 16:9, but after I encoded it to VCD, it looks as 4:3 so everybody look thin !!!
I am using SmartRipper -> DVD2AVI -> TMPGenc method.
Please help.

[hitechjunkie]

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On 2001-07-26 09:49:11, ktnwin wrote:
Can someone tell me exactly what to do to correctly encode the VOB that are 4:3 but supposed to be played as 16:9.
I just rip one last night, on the TV, it looks as 16:9, but after I encoded it to VCD, it looks as 4:3 so everybody look thin !!!
I am using SmartRipper -> DVD2AVI -> TMPGenc method.
Please help.

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ok, assuming your movie is 16:9 and your VCD will be played on a 4:3 TV, in TMPGEnc:

- click the "Setting" or "Configure" button at the bottom
- under the "Advanced" tab, set the source aspect ratio to "16:9 Display"
- under the "Video" tab, set the aspect ratio for video stream setting to "4:3 NTSC 525 lines"




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[lolalustig]

sorry hitechjunkie,

i can not agree with you. i solved it like this:

in tmpgenc ->settings -> advanced
under "source aspect ratio": choose what it has to look like
under "video arrange method": "full screen (keep aspect ratio)"
it worked out in my case.
how can you mix different system parameters like pal & ntsc?
anyway,

good luck

[lolalustig]

sorry again,

forget about my "pal&ntsc" comment.

regards

[hitechjunkie]

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On 2001-07-26 12:44:05, lolalustig wrote:
sorry hitechjunkie,

i can not agree with you. i solved it like this:

in tmpgenc ->settings -> advanced
under "source aspect ratio": choose what it has to look like
under "video arrange method": "full screen (keep aspect ratio)"
it worked out in my case.
how can you mix different system parameters like pal & ntsc?
anyway,

good luck
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i think you just rephrased what i said except i left out the "full screen (keep aspect ratio)" setting...

[ktnwin]

Thanks guys, your answer is right to the point (and your assumption is correct too, I guess that's what most people has). I will try again tonight, my VCD played full screen so everyone look thin.

1) So, TMPGEnc will keep the correct aspect ratio (16:9) by squeezing the picture vertically then add black bands above and below the picture. It will produce a 4:3 picture with those black bands.

This leads into another question regarding wide screen HDTV ready (I am planning to buy one this week, my older Sony 46" TV start to crap out: misaligned guns, faded out brightness, anything look terrible on it).

2) A 16:9 DVD will play full screen on a wide screen. However, a correctly VCD made from that DVD will look really stretched out horizontally (people look fatter) and we still see the black bands on top and at the botton.

3) Now this TV can be set a mode that blank out the two sides of it to preserve the 4:3 ratio (so people don't look too fat with normal TV program). The above VCD with play with the correct aspect ratio (16:9) but with black borders all around. The result is this DVD rip will look much smaller on this TV unit.

hightechjunkie, can you confirm / correct the 3 statements above. Thanks

(After editing)
Oh, by the way, I just think of something. The DVD is anamorphic that's why my VCD ripped from it play at full screen and everybody look thin. However, this VCD (incorrectly made) will look perfect (full screen with the proper aspect ratio) on the widescreen TV, won't it?

(Edit#2)
The more I think about this, I may not want to buy the wide screen TV anymore since my VCDs won't play right on it unless I play them in the "tiny" mode. This does not make sense on a big screen TV (why pay more for somethibg that is of very little use).







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