Capture Card help me

[gopala33]

i want to get best quality CAPTURE CARD to use XBOX 360 Console
i dont use record
i just play only with my crt monitor 4:3
i want high quality like DVD Quality most 480P like 720x480 DVD Quality 100% uncompress CAPTURE CARD for use XBOX 360 most video quality 100% clear for DVD Quality 720x480 DVD Quality high uncompress 100%
connect PC i dont want pc off and i use headphone jack connected sound card for pc too
like software open i click capture enable will black screeen then i turn on i turn on xbox 360 console will screen become xbox 360 like this
i want 100% high quality 100% Clear Picture DVD Quality uncompress 100% 720x480 like 480P
i connect xbox 360 wiredmost Yellow and white and red cables i dont connect TV i wil use my monitor direct PC
most support PAL and NTSC most be support PAL (50Hz) and (60Hz) Picture clear DVD quality and NTSC (75Hz) Picture Clear DVD Quality
i dont use Record so i use play like stream i dont want video lag too
i using Windows XP SP3 Pro to
what Brand and model best Quality most 480P 4:3 DVD Quality 100% uncompress
No Loss of quality 100% Picture Quality Clear

[hech54]

WTF are you talking about?

[lacywest]

Lots of ... I ... statements

Try using a search ... with ... Copernic or Google ... whatever ... your choice of favorite search method ... personally I use Copernic.

And use the ... keywords ........ Xbox 360 capture card

Try these links ... to get you started ... and you are welcome ... dude ...

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/274770-Finding-a-Good-Capture-Card-For-An-Xbox-360-System

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V02kP1F1MOY

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071119090342AAF40jg

[gopala33]

i said i want capture card high quality best picture most support most support PAL and NTSC most be support PAL (50Hz) and (60Hz) Picture clear DVD quality and NTSC (75Hz) Picture Clear DVD Quality

so i want video quality no loss of quality most 100% clear

what brand best not HD i using CRT Monitor so be 480P

[lacywest]

What you ... want ... may not be ... what you ... need

[lacywest]

Try going to Best Buy ... buy a good capture card and try it out ... if it dont work to your specifications ... take it back and get a different one that perhaps works better

[gopala33]

i want best capture card for high quality like dvd quality
that is i want to i want buy new capture card what brand and model best

[lacywest]

You ... will have to go out there and find out for yourself ... or look at reviews on video capture cards ... lots to look at on the Web

[usually_quiet]

I don't think there are any capture cards that can do what you want. Even without recording, there will always be a small delay.

You need a component/composite/S-Video to VGA converter for no delay. This does not connect to the PC, only to the monitor and game console. The picture will not be as clean as you want and they are not cheap. A small TV may cost less.

[gopala33]

I don't think there are any capture cards that can do what you want. Even without recording, there will always be a small delay.

You need a component/composite/S-Video to VGA converter for no delay. This does not connect to the PC, only to the monitor and game console. The picture will not be as clean as you want and they are not cheap. A small TV may cost less.

i need composite only i dont want VGA converter like VGA Box
i prefer software direct PC easy without switch i think no delay for capture card for pc to
i want support pal 50hz and 60hz and ntsc 75hz

[lacywest]

I have noticed you are from ... malaysia ... so your English is kind of broken. I have been replying to your posts so that other persons here at this website will see your post and be able to help you.

This area of help you are asking is not something I do at home ... so I dont have much experience in this area.

I do not use XBOX 360 devices in my living room ... all my game playing is on my PC in the garage. My grandson does play games in the living room on his game console.

Okay ... let us start over ........ Say again ... in a different way ... What are you trying to do ??

Are you wanting to play games with your XBOX 360 and capture the game play on video with your computer ??

[lacywest]

Try going to Best Buy ... buy a good capture card and try it out ... if it dont work to your specifications ... take it back and get a different one that perhaps works better

Hmmm ... being in Malaysia ... I guess there is not any ... Best Buy ... stores in your area. Sorry about making that suggestion.

[usually_quiet]

I don't think there are any capture cards that can do what you want. Even without recording, there will always be a small delay.

You need a component/composite/S-Video to VGA converter for no delay. This does not connect to the PC, only to the monitor and game console. The picture will not be as clean as you want and they are not cheap. A small TV may cost less.

i need composite only i dont want VGA converter like VGA Box
i prefer software direct PC easy without switch i think no delay for capture card for pc to
i want support pal 50hz and 60hz and ntsc 75hz

Your are mistaken in your assumptions. It is impossible to avoid lag if you use a PC and a capture device between the game console and the monitor. You will notice a delay even if you do not record anything. It does not matter which capture card you use or which software you use. There will always be lag.

To avoid lag, the capture device would need to send audio and video directly to the soundcard and video graphics adapter. Capture devices cannot do that. Capture devices need the help of software and the OS to send the audio and video where it has to go. The software and OS always introduce lag.

Audio and video must be read from buffers and written to buffers. This is necessary to avoid interruptions in the video and audio. The buffers need to hold back a small amount video and audio. The buffers are responsible for lag.

...but if you still don't believe me, ask your question in a gaming forum. See what other gamers say. You are not the first person to want to use a game console with a PC monitor instead of a TV. Others will have tried to solve the same problems.

[gopala33]

I don't think there are any capture cards that can do what you want. Even without recording, there will always be a small delay.

You need a component/composite/S-Video to VGA converter for no delay. This does not connect to the PC, only to the monitor and game console. The picture will not be as clean as you want and they are not cheap. A small TV may cost less.

i need composite only i dont want VGA converter like VGA Box
i prefer software direct PC easy without switch i think no delay for capture card for pc to
i want support pal 50hz and 60hz and ntsc 75hz

Your are mistaken in your assumptions. It is impossible to avoid lag if you use a PC and a capture device between the game console and the monitor. You will notice a delay even if you do not record anything. It does not matter which capture card you use or which software you use. There will always be lag.

To avoid lag, the capture device would need to send audio and video directly to the soundcard and video graphics adapter. Capture devices cannot do that. Capture devices need the help of software and the OS to send the audio and video where it has to go. The software and OS always introduce lag.

Audio and video must be read from buffers and written to buffers. This is necessary to avoid interruptions in the video and audio. The buffers need to hold back a small amount video and audio. The buffers are responsible for lag.

...but if you still don't believe me, ask your question in a gaming forum. See what other gamers say. You are not the first person to want to use a game console with a PC monitor instead of a TV. Others will have tried to solve the same problems.

how about brand avermedia
i saw people using avermedia capture card but picture clear still no lag
i using Windows XP SP3
intel pentium dual core E5300 2.60ghz and 1gb ram onboard video card intel
i realy need capture card best quality

[usually_quiet]

how about brand avermedia
i saw people using avermedia capture card but picture clear still no lag
i using Windows XP SP3
intel pentium dual core E5300 2.60ghz and 1gb ram onboard video card intel
i realy need capture card best quality

If you think you already found the perfect device and software for what you want to do, why haven't you bought one? ...and what is the name of this AVerMedia device and its software? AVerMedia does not sell all its products in every country. What you saw may not be sold in the US.

AVerMedia markets the AVerMedia AVerTV HD DVR PCI-E device here for recording video games. There is no hardware encoder, so it may be capable of displaying uncompressed video. I doubt this device would meet all your requirements, but there is also nothing else I know of that will meet them.

1. The specifications do not say it has a comb filter. A comb filter reduces dot-crawl atifacts caused by using composite or coax connections. A 3D comb filter is the best type to have. Dot-crawl is not present when using component or S-Video connections.

2. If the owner dislikes the AVer Media Center software provided with the AVerTV HD DVR, there is not another choice at present. Its device drivers are not a standard type for TV or capture cards. Other software does not work with it.

3. The documentation I can read does not say whether an AVerTV HD DVR can work with both PAL and NTSC. The US .pdf manual is broken. I cannot read most of it to find out more. I did not see this card when I visited the global website.

4. Some reviewers say there is no lag when not recording. Other reviewers say they noticed a little lag when not recording. Everybody agrees there is too much lag during recording using only the PC monitor to play a game. Avermedia recommends using a video splitter to feed both the AVerTV HD DVR and a TV to avoid problems with lag while playing a game. An amplified splitter is best, especially for HDMI.

[gopala33]

how about brand avermedia
i saw people using avermedia capture card but picture clear still no lag
i using Windows XP SP3
intel pentium dual core E5300 2.60ghz and 1gb ram onboard video card intel
i realy need capture card best quality

If you think you already found the perfect device and software for what you want to do, why haven't you bought one? ...and what is the name of this AVerMedia device and its software? AVerMedia does not sell all its products in every country. What you saw may not be sold in the US.

AVerMedia markets the AVerMedia AVerTV HD DVR PCI-E device here for recording video games. There is no hardware encoder, so it may be capable of displaying uncompressed video. I doubt this device would meet all your requirements, but there is also nothing else I know of that will meet them.

1. The specifications do not say it has a comb filter. A comb filter reduces dot-crawl atifacts caused by using composite or coax connections. A 3D comb filter is the best type to have. Dot-crawl is not present when using component or S-Video connections.

2. If the owner dislikes the AVer Media Center software provided with the AVerTV HD DVR, there is not another choice at present. Its device drivers are not a standard type for TV or capture cards. Other software does not work with it.

3. The documentation I can read does not say whether an AVerTV HD DVR can work with both PAL and NTSC. The US .pdf manual is broken. I cannot read most of it to find out more. I did not see this card when I visited the global website.

4. Some reviewers say there is no lag when not recording. Other reviewers say they noticed a little lag when not recording. Everybody agrees there is too much lag during recording using only the PC monitor to play a game. Avermedia recommends using a video splitter to feed both the AVerTV HD DVR and a TV to avoid problems with lag while playing a game. An amplified splitter is best, especially for HDMI.

i dont use tv so no need spliter
i dont record i wont do record i just play only with full screen
avermedia not software its capture card link http://www.avermedia.com/avertv/Product/ProductList.aspx?IID=5

look like this if i wont record still wil be lag ???
if i dont want lag to playing games smoother
what brand best for me recommed

[usually_quiet]

The capture card you want does not exist. This is the closest thing I know of: http://www.avermedia.com/avertv/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?Id=499 It is very similar to the AVerMedia AVerTV HD DVR, but it has a TV tuner. I cannot promise it will work with no lag. You may not like the software that comes with it, and it probably will not work with other software.

I recommend that you buy a TV or sell your XBOX 360.

[gopala33]

The capture card you want does not exist. This is the closest thing I know of: http://www.avermedia.com/avertv/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?Id=499 It is very similar to the AVerMedia AVerTV HD DVR, but it has a TV tuner. I cannot promise it will work with no lag. You may not like the software that comes with it, and it probably will not work with other software.

I recommend that you buy a TV or sell your XBOX 360.

why need buy tv if i sell xbox 360 if i get tv buy what point i dont watch tv
i need play games xbox 360 so i cannot sell
why need AVerMedia AVerTV HD DVR
i said i dont use HD coz i using CRT so cannot do widescreen i dont upgrade LCD Monitor
so i use Composite with 480P only so how

[usually_quiet]

why need buy tv if i sell xbox 360 if i get tv buy what point i dont watch tv
i need play games xbox 360 so i cannot sell
why need AVerMedia AVerTV HD DVR
i said i dont use HD coz i using CRT so cannot do widescreen i dont upgrade LCD Monitor
so i use Composite with 480P only so how

I have too much patience. Nobody is this stupid. Go play this game somewhere else.

[GKar]

Try forum.teamxbox.com

heres one thread, didn't look for anymore.


http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=567669

[usually_quiet]

There is an inexpensive cable set to connect an XBOX 360 to a PC monitor and a PC microphone jack. It seems to be a popular accessory. Installing a capture card to play games instead of record them does not work well because of lag. The problem is well-known. The OP must think it is fun to come here and waste everybody's time. I'm just sorry I let this jackass waste mine.

[Bjs]

There's a few issues involved and these are mostly related to "screen resolution" and "input source max"

So your intention is NOT to record but to merely have the xbox360 play the game via the computers screen without the need of those LAME vga converters (most are utter rubbish).

Yes, the avermedia devices (which I own several of) are pretty well perfect for such task ... but

Q: Is there significant delay
A: In the right system = it's so small you wont even notice it.

Q: Viewing quality
A: This is where "video resolution" comes into play.

The only way you get anything near the quality on the systems screen close as to what the xbox360 is providing is to use the AVerTV CaptureHD.

As for all the other analog types from avermedia there all restricted to dvd resolutions.

For this second part ... check what your system current driven video resolution is ... and compare this to dvd max resolution.

Example dvd = 720x576 (pal) vs 1280x1024 (system screen resolution)

If you use vlc to connect to the capture device and set it to full screen you are effectively viewing "dvd" input at 4x it's normally displayed resolution.

I might include that "dot-crawl artifacts" are not caused by cable input type ... rather its the following and what was just mentioned above.

Xbox360 (480i) > capture device (720x576 > Systems gpu (screen driven at 1280x1024).

Using vlc to push the input to the maximum system screen resolution will put a load on system gpu's screen redraw functions ... ie, get slow = lag ... the better the system the longer this problem will take to show up.

[usually_quiet]

I might include that "dot-crawl artifacts" are not caused by cable input type ... rather its the following and what was just mentioned above.

So if the type of connection used is not an issue, not only is Wikipedia is wrong (not unusual), but so are all those here at VideoHelp who have written that composite video and dot-crawl artifacts go together. I have seen reports that some older devices which created S-Video from composite using cheap components could produce dot-crawl artifacts as well, but a composite video source was the culprit for those too.

I don't notice dot-crawl artifacts on newer TVs which have comb filters and/or use S-Video connections, but do see them frequently on my fairly ancient CRT TVs, which have no comb filters and only provide composite video connections.

Can dot-crawl artifacts be seen on a CRT PC monitor when SD video is shown at its real resolution? I would say it is possible if the monitor is a large one.

[gopala33]

There's a few issues involved and these are mostly related to "screen resolution" and "input source max"

So your intention is NOT to record but to merely have the xbox360 play the game via the computers screen without the need of those LAME vga converters (most are utter rubbish).

Yes, the avermedia devices (which I own several of) are pretty well perfect for such task ... but

Q: Is there significant delay
A: In the right system = it's so small you wont even notice it.

Q: Viewing quality
A: This is where "video resolution" comes into play.

The only way you get anything near the quality on the systems screen close as to what the xbox360 is providing is to use the AVerTV CaptureHD.

As for all the other analog types from avermedia there all restricted to dvd resolutions.

For this second part ... check what your system current driven video resolution is ... and compare this to dvd max resolution.

Example dvd = 720x576 (pal) vs 1280x1024 (system screen resolution)

If you use vlc to connect to the capture device and set it to full screen you are effectively viewing "dvd" input at 4x it's normally displayed resolution.

I might include that "dot-crawl artifacts" are not caused by cable input type ... rather its the following and what was just mentioned above.

Xbox360 (480i) > capture device (720x576 > Systems gpu (screen driven at 1280x1024).

Using vlc to push the input to the maximum system screen resolution will put a load on system gpu's screen redraw functions ... ie, get slow = lag ... the better the system the longer this problem will take to show up.

i use my Resolution 1024x768
explan DVD = 720x480 (NTSC) i watch DVD Video my pc still no lag and DVD Quality SD still very Clear 100%
XBOX 360 (480P) capture device (720x480) so my pc Resolution 1024x768 so be can be clear 100% ???

any problem ??