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    What is the easiest way to convert all of my Blu-Ray & SD DVD collection to a media center hard drive? I have been reading about this ANYDVD HD Software. Will it convert all of my BD & SD DVD's to a single file on my hard drive that I can watch? Or is it (ANYDVD HD)only intended for disc to disc copying? I don't want several files for one movie that are in different parts to watch a BD. Or is this not possible yet because of the size of the BD files?

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    AnyDVD HD is only a decrypter program for BDs and DVDs. If you just want to back up your BD and DVDs to your hard drives as exact copies, that's all you need. If you need to compress them to a smaller space saving format, then you need other programs.
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    Originally Posted by redwudz
    AnyDVD HD is only a decrypter program for BDs and DVDs. If you just want to back up your BD and DVDs to your hard drives as exact copies, that's all you need. If you need to compress them to a smaller space saving format, then you need other programs.
    Thanks. I am not concerned about the files size.... I have four 2TB hard drives to fill. Just want to make sure that ANYDVD HD will put the exact copy on one file to my hard drive. What kind of file ext does it save as?



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    It saves as the same files on the disc,m2ts for the main video files.Without any compression you will fill out your hdd's after around 160 movies.
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    Originally Posted by johns0
    It saves as the same files on the disc,m2ts for the main video files.Without any compression you will fill out your hdd's after around 160 movies.
    Only 160 movies with four 2 Tb hard drives wow they are big files. How much PQ will I loose if I compress them? What software do you recommend for compressing BD & DVD files? Is there a player for .m2ts files?
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    You can play .m2ts files with MPC-HC or even VLC or other software players if your graphics card and PC have enough power. A full BD can be up to around 50GBs with all files from the BD disc. The Main BD movie is about 17 - 25GB, depending on the play length.

    You can use a program like BDRebuilder or RipBot to compress the movie down to a more manageable size. But the downside is several hours or overnight encoding times, depending on the format you choose and how fast your PC is.

    I back up my BDs to a 8GB MKV file with RipBot, using two pass encoding. That takes about 6 - 7 hours on a my quad 3.4Ghz PC. The quality is quite good, IMO.
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    Originally Posted by redwudz
    You can play .m2ts files with MPC-HC or even VLC or other software players if your graphics card and PC have enough power. A full BD can be up to around 50GBs with all files from the BD disc. The Main BD movie is about 17 - 25GB, depending on the play length.

    You can use a program like BDRebuilder or RipBot to compress the movie down to a more manageable size. But the downside is several hours or overnight encoding times, depending on the format you choose and how fast your PC is.

    I back up my BDs to a 8GB MKV file with RipBot, using two pass encoding. That takes about 6 - 7 hours on a my quad 3.4Ghz PC. The quality is quite good, IMO.

    Great thanks for the info. I will be playing these files through my WDTV live on my Plasma's. So I believe it can play .m2ts files. Also does the ANYDVD HD save the disc's to a one file on hard drive or several? Thanks
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    AnyDVD HD transfers everything on the BD disc to your HDD, (That's the definition of 'ripping') it just removes the encryption, so there are quite a few files. Look to the upper left on this page for 'WHAT IS' Blu-ray to see information about the BD file structure and those files. BDs are not near as simple as DVDs. Generally the main movie is the largest .m2ts file in the BDMV>STREAMS folder. But each .m2ts can contain multiple languages, different format audio tracks and subtitles. Drop one of those in tsMuxeRGUI and you will see all the parts.

    Not all BDs have the main movie as a single .m2ts file, so that's something you also need to look for. I have one that has five or six 3GB .m2ts files and the main movie is spread among them. tsMuxeR or other programs can mux or convert them to a single file.
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    Originally Posted by redwudz
    AnyDVD HD transfers everything on the BD disc to your HDD, (That's the definition of 'ripping') it just removes the encryption, so there are quite a few files. Look to the upper left on this page for 'WHAT IS' Blu-ray to see information about the BD file structure and those files. BDs are not near as simple as DVDs. Generally the main movie is the largest .m2ts file in the BDMV>STREAMS folder. But each .m2ts can contain multiple languages, different format audio tracks and subtitles. Drop one of those in tsMuxeRGUI and you will see all the parts.

    Not all BDs have the main movie as a single .m2ts file, so that's something you also need to look for. I have one that has five or six 3GB .m2ts files and the main movie is spread among them. tsMuxeR or other programs can mux or convert them to a single file.
    Wow this is getting more complicated then I thought. Now i have three software's to learn. Maybe I will just put a disc in instead of being lazy and have them all on a HD. I will give it a shot anyway. So most (all) SD DVD have just one .m2ts file to play movie?
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    So most (all) SD DVD have just one .m2ts file to play movie?
    Not sure what you mean about that. SD DVDs have the movie, subs, audio files contained in VOBs. VOBs are limited to 1GB filesize, so there are usually 4 or 5 VOBs or more for the movie. Extras use another set of VOBs. Then there are IFOs for structure information and BUPs for backup of the IFOs. But that's simple compared to a Blu-ray.

    If you wanted to simplify a .m2ts file, just use tsMuxeR on the main movie file, delete all the extra languages and subs and just select AC3 6 channel audio and mux to a new .m2ts file and you will reduce the file size quite a bit. Probably still 15 - 20GBs, though. But it will have the original video quality.
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    Don't save movies as transport streams, .ts for DVD .m2ts for blu ray because they are cpu intrensive

    instead save them as "demuxed" isos, demuxing removes unwanted audio tracks and subs while an iso is a disc image "1 file"

    Playing isos w/ the right software players insures playing movies w/ hardware acceleration w/ the right gfx cards

    I have 13TB and have over 700+ movies of which the majority are blu ray using my methods

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    Originally Posted by ocgw
    Don't save movies as transport streams, .ts for DVD .m2ts for blu ray because they are cpu intrensive

    instead save them as "demuxed" isos, demuxing removes unwanted audio tracks and subs while an iso is a disc image "1 file"

    Playing isos w/ the right software players insures playing movies w/ hardware acceleration w/ the right gfx cards

    I have 13TB and have over 700+ movies of which the majority are blu ray using my methods

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    What software do I use to save them as demuxed files? Will the WDTV live play these files?

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    Originally Posted by ocgw
    Don't save movies as transport streams, .ts for DVD .m2ts for blu ray because they are cpu intensive

    instead save them as "demuxed" isos, demuxing removes unwanted audio tracks and subs while an iso is a disc image "1 file"

    Playing isos w/ the right software players insures playing movies w/ hardware acceleration w/ the right gfx cards

    I have 13TB and have over 700+ movies of which the majority are blu ray using my methods

    ocgw

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    What software do I use to save them as demuxed files? Will the WDTV live play these files?

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    All you need is TsMuxeR (freeware) w/ AnyDVD HD running in the background to decrypt, demux and rip movies to folder, then use imgburn (freeware) to create the iso (mountable disc umage)

    You mount the iso to a virtual drive like Slysoft VCD (Virtual Clone Drive) and play it w/ a software player like Arcsoft TMT, WinDVD, or PowerDVD

    I like PDVD, it integrates into MyMovies3 catalog software and MyMovies3 integrates in to Windows 7/Media Center 7, or Vista Media Center

    MyMovies3 automatically monitors your HDD's and adds or deletes movies w/ the help of sites like imdb (internet movie database)

    In my experience (400+ blu rays) a blu ray demuxed to main movie w/ 1 standard 5.1 soundtrack and no sub averages about 18GB

    When the main movie is comprised of many .m2ts files the blu ray structure is known as a "seamless branching disc", you use BD Edit, BD Info, or eac3to to find the correct .mpls (master playlist) and choose that .mpls in TsMuxer to join the files as you rip and decrypt the movie

    and yes WDTV will play these files w/ easy setup from within media center

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    By leaving out the all the subs you save about 25-150MB depending on how many language subs you want to keep,but i would rather have the main(english) sub when the actors mumbles the words or when you need the forced subs for alien and foreign speaking.
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    Originally Posted by johns0
    By leaving out the all the subs you save about 25-150MB depending on how many language subs you want to keep,but i would rather have the main(english) sub when the actors mumbles the words or when you need the forced subs for alien and foreign speaking.
    On my "hi-fidelity" system I never have trouble hearing dialog but I do admit that I have forgotten to save the english subs on some foreign titles necessitating a re-rip

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    OK need a little help. I have been reading and trying this BD & DVD software. I have the TsMuxeR w/ AnyDVD HD running. All worked great on one BD disc because it had the main movie on one .m2ts file. But now I got another BD that has the movie in about 20 or so different .msts files. Is there a program that will take all of the files and organize them in the right order and make into one .m2ts file? Or do I have to watch ever .m2ts file and have them in the right order from the start of the movie to the end?
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    Originally Posted by johns0 View Post
    It saves as the same files on the disc,m2ts for the main video files.Without any compression you will fill out your hdd's after around 160 movies.
    BD maybe, but SD my typical is 400 movies uncompressed (feature only with credits cut out) per 2 tb drive. I have 8 TB media server. It has WHS, about 500 GB of home material, one TB set aside for pc backup, and a set aside for playon cache, leaving about 6 TBs.

    Right now I have about 1000 uncompressed sd features taking 5 TB. For BD I am converting, but a fairly high values at about 8 Gb per vs my average of 4.25 GB for uncompressed SD features. According to my calculations for 110 BD (which I am recoding to about 8 GB per).

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    1) rip to file with anydvd.
    2) reauthor main movie in DVDshrink, select dvd9 so no compression
    a) cutting out foreign language audio track
    b) leave in all subtitle tracks (size is trivial)
    c) if smaller english subtite track is present set as efalt as this was probably forced subs.
    d) use cut function to cut credits
    e) save to server
    Average size uncompressed is about 4GB

    BD
    1) rip with anydvd
    2) convert with ripbot 264, cq 18, 4.1, 720 (both my displays are 720)
    3) keep all subs
    4) burning in forced subs as hard subs
    Average size recoded is about 7 to 8 gb.
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