How can i make subtitle bigger or smaller (SUP File Format)

[Charmer]

I've added my subtitle into existing DVD, though I had complications with it. First, the problem was characters, then subtitle colors. And now, I'm stuck with the size of a subtitle. Original subtitles in the DVD are kinda like mine, but I can see the difference since characters in mine is little bigger. Is there any way I could make it smaller?
Thanks in advance!

[manono]

Since you're not saying how that SUP file was created, then no one can tell you how to make the letters smaller. Most subtitle creation programs have ways to define the sizes. If you created subs for a PAL DVD and it's really an NTSC DVD, then that would explain it as the subs will be about 20% larger than normally

Other than that, you could extract all the BMPs, resize them in such a way that the letters get smaller, and then stick them back into the DVD. I don't know if that's any easier than what you've already done or not.

[Charmer]

I have created my SUP file with SubtitleCreator, and I really have no idea if it is PAL or NTSC. I don't know if my DVD is NTSC or PAL either.
Can you tell me how to find this out? And, if you can help me about the size.

Thank you in advance!

[manono]

PAL DVDs are 720x576 and 25fps. NTSC DVDs are 720x480 and 29.97fps. If you open a VOB in GSpot it'll tell you. I don't use SubtitleCreator to make SUP subtitles, but I suspect it makes PAL subtitles by default. If your DVD is NTSC and the subtitles PAL, that would explain why the subs are larger than you wanted.

[AlanHK]

I've created my SUP file with SubtitleCreator, and i really have no idea if it is PAL or NTSC SUP. Also, i don't know if my DVD is NTSC or PAL. Can you tell me how to find this out? And, if you can help me of size. Thanks in advance!

Subtitle Creator has lots of options for formatting subtitles (they're cleverly concealed in the "Formatting" menu ).
And it has a comprehensive help file.
Read it.

[Charmer]

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[r11532]

charmed94

You might try using a freeware program "DVDSubEdit". It changes subtitles in DVD vob files directly without demuxing/remuxing.

[Charmer]

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[r11532]

charmed94

This may not be the best solution but it should work. Although I suspect there must be a simplier way.

DVDSubEdit can do what you want but there is a learning curve. It has the ability to save each subtitle as a 720x480 subpic bitmap file. These bmp files can be edited for size and then imported back into the vob. DVDSubEdit doesn't have the ability to save or import the subtitle pics as a batch process so this step will be a lot of work to extract many subtitles. A macro recorder could automate the effort perhaps but that's beyond the instructions given here.

Download and install the pic editor IrfanView, use it to open one of the saved bmp files and configure its batch conversion function to convert all the bmps fonts to a different point size such as from 10 pt. to 12 pt. which would require resizing the bmps to 120%. The resulting converted files will have a new size of 864x576. As a second pass, configure and rerun the batch function to center and crop the new bmps back to 720x480 with at crop setting of x-coord = 72, y-coord = 96, width = 720, height = 480 and start point = left top for example for the new font size of 12 pt. Some experimentation should give a perfect font centering and vertical positioning result for any font size change. Use DVDSubEdit to import all the final bmps back into the vobs.

But given all the effort to do this, wouldn't it be a simpler option to reauthor the DVD with Muxman using an sup file authored by SubtitleCreator, chapter points extracted by Chapter-X-tractor or IfoEdit, and video and audio files extracted by ReJig or IfoEdit. Subtitle srt scripts for almost any movie are generally available through the internet or you can use SubRip and Subtitle Workshop to extract and manipulate your own srt from your own DVDs.

[Charmer]

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