Videoredo Hassle

[seifer almasy]

b. possible bug. When outputting to MPEG2 Transport stream, often the program seems to abort the task at various intervals with no error at all. In the past I got a load of warnings about buffer underflow.

Any help at all appreciated

[poisondeathray]

Try updating videoredo, your version is older

Consider reporting the issue in the VideoRedo support forum, if these issues persist after upgrading

You could export as MPEG2-PS from videoredo then use TSMuxer to re-wrap it into .ts.

[guns1inger]

I am using a slightly older version (will check version number when I get home) and use it to edit transport streams (HD and SD) and DVD output, and have no performance issues when scrolling along the timeline or playing back video, and no output issues.

Combining this with your Vegas issues in your other post, I would be looking at something more systemic either with your codecs, your HDDs, or your source footage.

[seifer almasy]

Surely videoredo uses its own decoder....I would be amazed if it used external decoders. Same with vegas, that certainly uses its own decoders.

So that seems unlikely. As for source data, it is DVD. Every single dvd has this issue. So maybe it is anydvd which is the issue? As it is decoding on the fly....

But another editor I used didn't seem to have any scrolling issues...

[poisondeathray]

Do you have the DVD in the DVD reader or on the HD? You should rip it to the HD because you will be I/O bound by the DVD reader, and seeking/scrubbing will be slow

[seifer almasy]

yeah I was a bit stumped by the fact another cutter had no issue but you are right. This is because I am using DVD and anydvd. That is the issue here. So case closed on that front.

Now the otehr issue is buffer underflows and anomalies when using the transport stream :P

[seifer almasy]

What settings are optimal in videredo...especially when dealing with DVD.

I see options here and I haven't the foggiest what they mean....

output PAT and PMT packets (seems more like a female issue lol)


PIDS, nullpackets, and mux rate....

What do these do and should I alter them?

[poisondeathray]

It's possible your I/O issues might be contributing to the transport stream export issues

The 3.1.5 changelog has quite a few transport stream fixes , consider upgrading

https://www.videohelp.com/tools/VideoReDo/version-history#changelog

[poisondeathray]

What settings are optimal in videredo...especially when dealing with DVD.

I see options here and I haven't the foggiest what they mean....

output PAT and PMT packets (seems more like a female issue lol)


PIDS, nullpackets, and mux rate....

What do these do and should I alter them?

ROFL

I just leave them as default and have no problems with transport streams (importing, I don't use videoredo to export)

[minidv2dvd]

external usb hard drives are not as fast or consistent as internal drives, anything else using usb can interrupt them. buffer underruns could be a result.

[seifer almasy]

happens when saving to Drive C also....

[poisondeathray]

Try Drive M or N...i.e. not your Windows system drive

Try unistalling/reinstalling or upgrade, maybe you have a corrupt install ?

Seeking should be quick for a standard DVD, it might be a bit slower for 1080p material, and your PC specs look ok

Do you have other processes in the background eating CPU cycles? e.g. virus scan, defragging HD, adware, viruses..etc... check task manager

[seifer almasy]

I can assure you that the issue I had has nothing to do with harddrives or specs or installations. It is simply anydvd in use with videoredo. They do not like one another. Anydvd decodes dvd on the fly and DVD is not as fast as a harddrive.

The problem is that videoredo seems to handle the data it gets from anydvd very slowly. It is doing more than it needs to at the playback point.

Other editors handle the data very well but videoredo does not like DVD and anydvd at all.

If anyone out there has an encrypted movie dvd and anydvd and videoredo they could also try this and I think they would find much the same issue

[minidv2dvd]

so copy the dvd to the hard drive first.

[poisondeathray]

Then rip it with DVDFab

DVDFab HD Decrypter is the free version

I disagree with your observation - I have anydvd + videoredo, it's not that slow. I think it's something wrong with your setup or user error

[seifer almasy]

so copy the dvd to the hard drive first.

The whole idea of using anydvd is to cut out ripping to a harddrive. That would take a considerably large amount of time. Copying the files to harddrive wouldnt take too long but would be a step that isnt needed/

Anyway, I know that there is no fix for this point The problem I have now is the transport stream options. What are optimal settings?

[TimA-C]

Ripping a self recorded single-layer DVD +RW with DVD Decryptor takes between 6 and 9 minutes on my system and I've just tried ripping a dual-layer commercial encrypted DVD with DVDFab HD Decryptor and it took less than 20 mins. Hardly "a considerably large amount of time", and if it works . . .

Just as a matter of interest, why are you posting VRD questions here rather than at VRD's own forum where you can communicate with other VRD users and the developers?

[seifer almasy]

I have posted there too in the past, got little feedback. I spoke to the developers who told me there was no problem....

Any case, there is a wealth of know;edge here. It is like asking why don't sony vegas users send messages on sony board or premiere uses report things to adobe.

people here will certainly know what mux rates are and what is optimal for DVD. What are PITS and PMT packets etc

[minidv2dvd]

so copy the dvd to the hard drive first.

The whole idea of using anydvd is to cut out ripping to a harddrive. That would take a considerably large amount of time. Copying the files to harddrive wouldnt take too long but would be a step that isnt needed/

Anyway, I know that there is no fix for this point The problem I have now is the transport stream options. What are optimal settings?

you might try dragging the video_ts folder to the hard drive with anydvd running. it should only take about 5 minutes for a dvd5. put it on c: and then use the other drive as the destination drive for videoredo. things will definitely go faster and save time for the entire project.

[seifer almasy]

yup that is the solution

Now, does anyone know about mux rate and the transport options in videoredo?

[minidv2dvd]

the mux rate and other options of a .ts is should only be changed if you need a specific rate and packet types for it to be broadcast over the air from a tv station. for consumer use it shouldn't even be there. everything in the transport stream options page should have a check mark and the ouput mux rate should be set to automatic.

[TimA-C]

I have posted there too in the past, got little feedback. I spoke to the developers who told me there was no problem....

Any case, there is a wealth of know;edge here. It is like asking why don't sony vegas users send messages on sony board or premiere uses report things to adobe.

people here will certainly know what mux rates are and what is optimal for DVD. What are PITS and PMT packets etc

I have no idea how good or active the Sony forums are but I do know how good the VRD forums and developers are, hence the question, and I suspect that the people there will also know about MUX rates, PMT etc. as well as having intimate knowledge of the software itself. But if you've tried there, fine.

Hope you find a solution that satisfies you.

[seifer almasy]

the mux rate and other options of a .ts is should only be changed if you need a specific rate and packet types for it to be broadcast over the air from a tv station. for consumer use it shouldn't even be there. everything in the transport stream options page should have a check mark and the ouput mux rate should be set to automatic.

cheers

1 last thing. What is PAt PMT interval? The default is 100 ms. What is the merit in it being 100 and is there any reason to change?