Loosing my sleep and hair.

[ils]

I managed to copy and encode the DVD to a VCD *.mpg format using Smart Ripper and TMPGEnc but when I play the mpg file I created, I got a very bad case of shaking picture. The audio and video sync but the video just shakes in all directions just a slightly bit but enough to give a blury picture.
Please help because I can't find anything relate to this in the search.

[Sefy]

Sounds like either you forgot to load a VCD Template, or your field order is not correct.

[ils]

I pretty much followed your guide word for word using TMPGEnc. I did load the template that came with the program and the bottom line of the screen did show the template in use just like in your guide. And what does: "your field order" mean? if you don't mind a stupid question.
Thanks for your reply.

[Sefy]

ils, don't do exactly like the guide, the guide is just an example, some movies are diffrent, not to mention the region codes, what if your movie is PAL and you use a NTSC Template just cause my guide shows it ?

Field Order is located in the Advanced section, I suggest you try encoding as Non-Interlaced and change the Field Order to something else then it is now.

[sdispun]

Or try this DVDx at..
http://www.labdv.com/en/manuals/dvdx_guide.php

It reads directly of the IFO (both rom and Hard drive) without have to DVD2AVI first, auto detect 3:2 pull down and convert 23.97 FPS to 29.97, audio track selection, and much more. Simply as this.. got just what I need and nothing I don't.

Don't get me wrong, TMPEGenc is a good tool for MPG to MPG, cut, joint. But if we're talking about DVD to VCD, like few people said, "DVDx This is the best and easiest way" and I just have to be one of those few people too. Try it out.

[baker]

I think u should use my guide, I gaurantee if u follow it word for word and get dvd v1.6 than u won't be dissapointed.

Baker

[Sefy]

I'm not competing on who has a better guide, all guides are good for their purpose, but I wouldn't recommand following any guide word per word, no one can predict what may happen or what may not happen.

I'm here to try and solve a problem if it was encountered, this is how we learn to fix things.

[ils]

sdispun and baker: I tried that program a week ago: caused internal error and shut down (I have Windows XP Pro).

sefy: I tried your suggestions: same problem as before and I have the settings correct (I hope) as far as template and region.

Let me try to give a little better description of my problem: I can rip the DVD and get an almost 4 Gig vob file. I can play that file in Windows Media Player or Power DVD and it plays just fine; everything is good. My computer runs on Windows XP Pro; P4 1.4 Gig CPU, 384 Meg of Rambus RAM, about 30 Gig of free space on Ultra DMA hard drive (I don't know if this has anything to do with my problem but mention it just in case). The problem is when I got the vob file converted to VCD format, the picture became funny looking. By this, what I mean is that let say in a scene, a person walks across a room, everything in the room that is stationary (not moving) stay clear but the person walking has a shaking effect making the subject blur while walking across the room. There, I typed it but I will understand if no one understand.

Thank you all for your suggestions.

I forgot to mention: when I use TMPGEnc to convert and stop it at about 10-20 minutes into the process and stop it, the little mpg that it made look good too. It's just letting it run through the whole process that gave me problem.

[Sefy]

I don't know if you have tried it, but in TMPGEnc - Video, there is the Motion search precision, usually the default is Motion estimate search fast
I usually use the Normal settings, but others tend to use High Quality or better.

Maybe that would fix your motion problem.

[staind_96]

try frameserving your vob files with dvd2avi.
in dvd2avi under video - field operation select force film. and then in tmpge load the ntsc film template. this should do the trick.

[Chips144]

ils,
You said that if you encode a small (10 to 20 min) part of the movie in TMPGEnc and play back the resulting file, it looks fine. Only when you do the complete movie do you get the problem. First, you can choose to do only a small piece of the movie in TMPGEnc by selecting "source range" in the advanced panel and setting the start and stop points. Second, and more importantly, if your partial encode results are fine, that means that your rip and your frameserving have been done properly for this particular movie. By that I mean a dvd that was coded progressively should have "forced film" option set in DVD2AVI and in TMPGEnc you should choose a template for "NTSC Film" (obviously if the movie is PAL, this is not the case). The question then becomes why your complete encode plays poorly. Here you have to supply some more information. When you say it plays poorly, what exactly are you playing? Is it the output file from TMPGEnc or is it the burned VCD? If the file out of TMPGEnc looks good and the burned VCD looks bad, look to your burned program for the problem. If the complete file out of TMPGEnc looks bad while the partial file looked good, and everything was exactly the same for the entire process, then I don't have any idea what could be wrong. Are you sure that you are not running any other programs while the encoding is taking place?

[sdispun]

I'm with staind_96 and Chips144, use force film when you do DVD2AVI, I'm sure your source is a 23.97 fps, If so, this will do a pulldown 3:2 trick for you.

[ils]

Isn't NTSC film has a slower frame rate?
The video came out of TMPGEnc (the complete process) that look bad (didn't even tried to burn it on CD; no sense of doing that since it's not good).
What puzzled me was why 10-20 minutes looked and sounded so good but letting the whole vob file ran through told a different story.
I tried everyone's suggestions here but still no go.
I did use the computer and do other things while TMPGEnc was producing the mpg file but I don't see the relevance of this issue (stupid I guess).
What I did was put the DVD in the DVD player and hooked up the RCA\S plugs to the back of my computer and recorded that way and have a MPEG1 format.

Again, thanks for all of your inputs. Drop a line when you have new suggestions.

[stanwebber]

my guide is designed to be followed word-for-word if that's what you need. obviously, this would be counter-productive in other guides, but a newbie guide shouldn't be written any other way since all qualitative judgements necessarily fall to the author in this circumstance

[sdispun]

Here is another trick if all else fall.. rip and encode it as PAL, then de-multiplex and multiplex them back (if needed). and re-encode it again as NTSC. It works for me once long time ago.