139 min on one cd

[natcom]

i have put 139 min divx movie convert it to svcd on 1 cd with no quality lose i learn that from a master

[bilbogod]

This is Sean Madisons methods I presume??

[natcom]

he those not go by that name

[Truman]

natcom, that means you used a average bitrate of 676+112 kbps or similar. Do you mind to tell us some more details about it? Since I dont believe, that it is possible to create a decent looking SVCD @ that low bitrate, could you upload a small sample?
Btw, if anyone start here a new "bash S...M.." topic", I will delete it.

[natcom]

please e-mail me if you want to know how it was done

[natcom]

by the way i used 1080 for bitrate for those who dont want to e-mail me

[tigerwolf]

sniff sniff, I smell a shitzon. I tell ya what if natcom isn't sean or at least a close friend of sean's I'll eat my shorts. LOL.

especially with this classic line:
"please e-mail me if you want to know how it was done"

[natcom]

LOL haaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Truman]

natcom, you've got mail more than an hour ago. I am really curious. I dont want to add any comments until you answered.
Although...you... no, I can not fit 139 minutes on one CD if I use an average total bitrate of 1080 kbps. I end with 1073 MB. Is that the secret? Do you have a 1.05GB disk?
Still waiting....

[sean madison]

natcom, i aint stupid.

I've been doin stuff liek that all the time and i know the specs.

For one-
In my svcd-x guide, u cannot encode no more than 1 hr 51 min in the svcd-x method w\o quality loss.
Second, u usin divx which quality has already been lost.

2 hr and 19 min is funny.
You think we gonna believe that?
Even at a res of 352x240 xsvcd, quality cannot be kept.

I've been encodin into xsvcd for 2 yrs now and svcd-x since this past x-mas.

I do solid tests all the time when i think of somethin new and NO tests EVER even though i am very well fluent with all of tmpgenc filters can produce quality that great.

Now, that said, i am trying the new tmpgenc v 2.51 as i been hearin that it makes better quality now.
With that said, that doesnt mean that my svcd-x guide is gonna allow more time on 1 cd lossless.
I will not promise that cuz right now, i dont have time to do that kind of tests.

Natcom, im sorry but u have lost.

I know quality, if u think it looks good, send me a sample of it thru aim- im me shizzzon

I'll tell u what i think.

[natcom]

sorry people but im at work now as soon that get home i reply to my e-mail i will post it here but i dont know if my master want me 2

[sean madison]

ur master?
what r u a freakin slave to someone who is bullshittin u?

[sean madison]

u know what i think he means about 1080

Hes probably talkin about usin cq or cq_vbr of max of 1080.
Quality at like 33-50.

cuz on an 80 min cd at 139 min even here are specs to go by if usin cbr-
audio bitrate at 128- 657
audio bitrate at 112- 673
audio bitrate at 96 - 689
audio bitrate at 64 -721

So even at 64 for 721 usin cbr, u cant overburn up to 350 mb more on an 80 min cd.
Now, 99 min cds are different but i know nothing of 99 min cds readable on dvd players all the way up to the 99 min mark(980mb).

he probably used by my best guess either 96,112, or 128 audio bitrate usin CQ or cq_VBR at min 0 max 1080 and quality in between 33-50.

And for quality, sound if under 128 would suck and vid quality, unless divx source royally sucks to begin with, the quality would DEFINITELY degrade

[Truman]

This has nothing to do with "win" or "loss". Most people are interested in fitting as much as possible on one CD. If you, natcom and ShiZZZoN, have the holy grail, tell us. This is a VCDhelp forum. We help each other, for free. If anyone want to sell something, change to ebay. Come on guys. 1 hr 51 min means you use an average total bitrate of ~987 kbps. "w\o quality loss"? Doubtfull unless the source quality suck too and there is nothing to loose anymore.

[sean madison]

if this is just about how much u can fit, then i can make a guide that shows how to fit 4 hrs.

This has to do with how much u can fit without quality loss.

I dont use cbr
I use CQ_VBR

one test i did was min0 max 1400 qu-61

1 hr 38 min movie, perfect(well not dvd perfect but way better than vhs)

And i swear to god.

If one more person mentions sellin somethin on this forum again, im takin u and ur pc to hell.

Im tired of people claimin im sellin shit.

HELLO READ AND MAYBE U WILL BE IN PRESENT TIME!!!
FOR THE PAST FREAKIN WEEK, I AM NOT SELLIN SHIT

GET OUTTA THE PAST
UNLESS U WANNA PISS ME OFF, THEN I'LL KICK UR ASS SOMEWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN THIS WEBSITE LETS ME

[Truman]

Fortunately English isn't my native language, so I didn't understand everything
Maybe I missed it, because I can not read all posts: Did you post a template or a little guide alreaddy?
btw, ~987kbps is ~987kbps, no matter which VBR mode I use.
And yes "perfect quality" means perfect quality, i.e. at least DVD quality (you know, many dvd suck too).

[sean madison]

truman, i dont know if u are relating to me selling my guide but if u are, u better stop

Im not playin no more, im goin OuTRaGe.

One more person claim to bash me for doin somethin i am not, u DEAD

Truman, if u aint referrin to this, then dont pay atentioon to this.

I aint playin no more.

Too many people on here tryin to piss me off rather than helpin

U ever hear bout the people who get in outrage and start killin?
Dont F*CK with me

[Truman]

Have a look at my first reply of this topic... I dont want to **** anyone, I am just talking about facts. You should do that too. So what about a template?

[sean madison]

o cool truman
see heres the thing, templates, i really dont do that anymore, here is why-

Every movie has a different time length for one.
2nd, even if 2 diff movies are same length, they have diff quality
IE- cam vs dvd.

I use CQ_VBR ok, i have always noticed i can set max way higher and quality way higher for a crappy video but for a dvd, it can be no more than like 100 kb\sec more than the max cbr value can be to fill cd up.

Now, i am still almost done finishing revising my guide ok cuz i had to change some things if u wanted to dvd rip and use my guide.

Well, hopefully by middle of next week or end of next week for sure, it WILL be done.

[Truman]

OK, I would love to try it.

[silab]

sean, I would like to try your template too

You seem to know what you are saying.

Is your template the same as the CVCD template by some spanish guy here before?

I am just having problems with the audio on that one with my apex 600 but not in Apex 700

So might want to try out yours to see if it works with no problem

Thanks

[sean madison]

oh no, its not the cdvd template

I respect all guides and temps made from other users.
I dont steal settings they use

I put it to ya in real easy terms so everyone can understanda how svcd-x works

U encode using non standard specs which makes it possible to make it fit onto 1 cd.

Then u do the magic thats specified in the guide and it will be read as standard in nero and playable on standard only dvd players.

So its like being able to play a non standard movie on a standard dvd player.

Thats what is so cool about it.

The guide is being revised and will be sent to those who im me on aim sn is shizzzon

quality is great

[silab]

Sean, if youre done, hope u dont mind emaling me that :)

clubbersof7@yahoo.com

[cybermage26]

i managed to fit 120mins on one 80min CD, I was encoding the VCD from a downloaded AVI movie (mothman prophecies), and it kept the same quality as the AVI file (which isnt top notch). But yeah, watching it on the TV beats watching it on the computer.

I used CQ_VBR
min bitrate = 500
max bitrate = 1000
and I set that quality - compression bar thingo whatever to 20.
also dropped audio from 224 to 128, mainly because the audio on the AVI file was only 128 hehe.

[cybermage26]

if anyone has a website I would be willing to upload a sample of how it turned out, email me cybermage26@hotmail.com

[natcom]

people the guy that come out with this new way to put more than 139 min
on one cd is shizzzon he tell me how it work and it work great he is comeing out with a giude soon for everyone please trust the guy he is not full of shit like some people think

[Guyver]

natcom, if shizzzon is the one who told you this then how come Sean 'shizzzon' madison is one of the people that thinks it cannot be done ?

[natcom]

i dont know but it work for me i only made a change to the setting i got from him

[Guyver]

natcom, do you have a template I can test?

[natcom]

if anyone want to talk about this IM me nick culoman87 that is AOL instant messenger for those who dont know