how to? minidv tape to dvd best options

[pantsdavies]

Hello
I have used adobe premire pro for years editing footage for playback on my dvd player, from my minidv camcorder, and this is how i did it:

captured using premeire pro 2.0(now have CS3)
editing video onto the time line with music etc
then exported movie using microsoftAVi setting, compression- none, de-interlacing checked?
the files are large but that doesnt bother me

then use encore to do a little dvd menu.

Is there a better way I can use to get better results for exporting to DVD?
Should I be using the microsoftavi setting?
Should I be using de-interlacing?
is the quicktime settings better for quality?




I thought I was doing okay, but since joining this site there seem like so many ways of getting from minidv to dvd
im all confussed now, just want the best option for best quality, dont care about rendering time etc

Cheers fellas any help would be most apprciated,, Ta

[Baldrick]

It looks okey. You shouldn't deinterlace and don't export to any quicktime compressed format.

But what video encode settings are you using in adobe encore? Try use the highest possible bitrate and compressed ac3 audio.

[pantsdavies]

Sorry for the cross post I put my question in the Hd section for some reason, My bad sorry.

Im not sure how you set the quality settings in encore, if I click FILE--PROJECT SETTINGS, it states

DVD, 720 x 576, Mpeg-2
If I click the advance tab its states, MAX video/audio bitrate is 8mbps.

Do I need to click FILE--EDIT QUALITY PRESETS then select

format---------mpeg2
preset---------Pal DV high quality 7mb vbr 2 pass
Quality -------5
field order----lower
min bitrate----1.5
target bitrate 7
max bitrate 9

estimated file size is--3.43mb/s.


are these okay?
and how do I make sure its is accually covertings using these settings???

thanks

[pantsdavies]

Thanks baldrick

A friend of mine said you should always deinterlace when exporting a movie to an AVI

is he talking Rubbish?

I find deinterlacing stills works better than none deinterlacing.


What is deinterlacing, interlacing??????? can you give me a quick run down please

Thanks

[edDV]

Sorry for the cross post I put my question in the Hd section for some reason, My bad sorry.

Im not sure how you set the quality settings in encore, if I click FILE--PROJECT SETTINGS, it states

DVD, 720 x 576, Mpeg-2
If I click the advance tab its states, MAX video/audio bitrate is 8mbps.

Do I need to click FILE--EDIT QUALITY PRESETS then select

format---------mpeg2
preset---------Pal DV high quality 7mb vbr 2 pass
Quality -------5
field order----lower
min bitrate----1.5
target bitrate 7
max bitrate 9

estimated file size is--3.43mb/s.


are these okay?
and how do I make sure its is accually covertings using these settings???

thanks

First the project setting should be PAL DV 720x576 25fps interlace. Use 4:3 or wide depending on camcorder setting.

Import your DV to the timeline and edit.

You can encode from the timeline to DVD in two ways (more in CS3).
1. You can make a quick DVD with default menus
2. You can encode to MPeg2 in a form that can be passed to a DVD authoring program like Encore (or other).

CS3 adds limited DVD Menu support as a third option.

The encoder settings you list are at the "very good" level. For handheld camcorder source you might want to go higher with 8000Kbps to 9000Kbps average target for VBR or CBR. If you want PCM audio, use CBR fixed bit rate around 8000Mbps.

You can also export to other formats including DV, divx, wmv, etc.

[pantsdavies]

First the project setting should be PAL DV 720x576 25fps interlace. Use 4:3 or wide depending on camcorder setting.

Import your DV to the timeline and edit.

You can encode from the timeline to DVD in two ways (more in CS3).
1. You can make a quick DVD with default menus
2. You can encode to MPeg2 in a form that can be passed to a DVD authoring program like Encore (or other).

CS3 adds limited DVD Menu support as a third option.

The encoder settings you list are at the "very good" level. For handheld camcorder source you might want to go higher with 8000Kbps to 9000Kbps average target for VBR or CBR. If you want PCM audio, use CBR fixed bit rate around 8000Mbps.

You can also export to other formats including DV, divx, wmv, etc.[/quote].

Thanks very much, my main plan is to go from mini DV to dvd so not really bothered with the others thanks.
but I have just bought a sony hdr -hc5e HD Camcorder with is widescreen.

As I dont have a Blueray/hd burner do I need to use the camera covert function from hd to SD or keep as hd and edit normal then export to encore as I have been.

what is PCM audio and why would I want to do this?

I will increase from 8000 to 9000 thanks.

is with as good quality to do a quick dvd export in CS3 as using encore????

Thanks for all your help

[edDV]

Thanks very much, my main plan is to go from mini DV to dvd so not really bothered with the others thanks.
but I have just bought a sony hdr -hc5e HD Camcorder with is widescreen.

As I dont have a Blueray/hd burner do I need to use the camera covert function from hd to SD or keep as hd and edit normal then export to encore as I have been.

what is PCM audio and why would I want to do this?

I will increase from 8000 to 9000 thanks.

is with as good quality to do a quick dvd export in CS3 as using encore????

Thanks for all your help

The move to a HC5e HDV camcorder adds issues. The HC5 can be used in various ways:

1. The HC5 can be operated in MiniDV format mode recording to tape in DV format video (4:3 or wide) plus 2 channels of uncompressed 16bit LPCM audio.

2. The HC5 can record HDV format (high def MPeg video and audio) and output HDV format over IEEE-1394 to the hard drive.

3. The HC5 can record HDV format (high def MPeg video and audio) and output in 720x480 DV format + LPCM decompressed audio. This mode allows shooting a HDV master tape but allows capture and editing at normal 720x480 DV format.

This leads to alternative strategies for editing and authoring DVD

Strategy 0 - Shoot, edit and author at standard definition.

Strategy 1 - Shoot HDV, transfer wide DV, edit wide DV and author a 16:9 standard def DVD. Save the HDV tape master for future high def editing and authoring.

Strategy 2 - Shoot HDV, transfer and edit HDV format and then downscale + encode + author to 16:9 standard def DVD. In this case the HDV edit master can be saved as a file on disk or transferred back to the HDV camcorder for backup on tape.

Strategy 3 - Shoot HDV, transfer and edit HDV format and then author to a high definition format (e.g. HD DVD, BluRay, DivxHD, XvidHD, VC-1, WMV-HD, H.264, etc.).

If you are using strategy #1 or #2 to get to a standard definition DVD, I suggest you use MPeg audio and encode video to higher allowed bit rates to preserve HD to SD quality at the expense of recording time. Maximum bit rates are 9800Kb/s less audio but 8500-9000Kbps for video remains a good practical average rate. I suggest you experiment.

[thecoalman]

Thanks baldrick

A friend of mine said you should always deinterlace when exporting a movie to an AVI

is he talking Rubbish?

I find deinterlacing stills works better than none deinterlacing.


What is deinterlacing, interlacing??????? can you give me a quick run down please

Hes talking rubbish if you are refferring to footage shot as SD interlaced. Not sure what your cam is produciing as it's not your average cam. The easiest way to tell is if it has lines like this during high motion:



That is normal and looks fine on a TV, not so good on monitor unless you have some decent playback software. When you deinterlace you basically though half the resolution away.

[edDV]

The HC5 does 1440x1080i (25fps interlace for PAL)

The HDV standard also allows for 1280x720p but that format is not supported by the Sony consumer HDV cams.

[pantsdavies]

Thanks fellas option 2 sounds good to me.

which hd option do i select in premiere CS3.

after editing on timeline is it okay to select--transfer to encore?

What would be the best settings for burning a standard dvd foe best quality?
I will also save the movie on tape for fuure hd burning

[pantsdavies]

The HC5 does 1440x1080i (25fps interlace for PAL)

The HDV standard also allows for 1280x720p but that format is not supported by the Sony consumer HDV cams.

Why is there a deinterlace option? what is it for????

[edDV]

The HC5 does 1440x1080i (25fps interlace for PAL)

The HDV standard also allows for 1280x720p but that format is not supported by the Sony consumer HDV cams.

Why is there a deinterlace option? what is it for????

There are times when software deinterlace is needed but not if the target is a conventional PAL TV or a good quality HDTV.