Videostudio 10Plus problems

[eccentric-eric]

This is my first post here.
I am frustrated with VS10
I am getting pops and static sounds during playback when i add transitions to my videos. That's when the video transitions to the next scene the transition effects messes with the sound a bit. THe video clips are the special Quicktime movie file from my camera that i converted to AVI with "Mp4Cam2AVI" program.

Also when i do voiceover narrations when i playback my voice is over deviated no matter what mic volume settings i use. but with windows voice recorder all is fine. on other software all appears to be fine. The rendered file is the same. Maybe VS10 has problems down converting the audio to match what the video file audio is. The video file sound is 24.0 khz, 16 bit, mono. Though the final output is DVD spec with Mono.

[eccentric-eric]

anyone?

[edDV]

MPeg 4 is tough to edit. I'd externally decompress first and then edit.

[eccentric-eric]

MPeg 4 is tough to edit. I'd externally decompress first and then edit.

now i'm confused. I thought i was supposed to convert from quicktime to avi. how to i decompress? Is that not what i was doing?

[edDV]

Video Studio is decompressing your MPeg4 but is making the sound errors you don't like.

If you decompress MPeg4 extrenally (e.g. Virtual Dub with proper codec) then Video Studio should be able to edit without glitches. In other words, decompress don't convert to DivX/XviD if you want to edit and add transitions in Video Studio.

[eccentric-eric]

Video Studio is decompressing your MPeg4 but is making the sound errors you don't like.

If you decompress MPeg4 extrenally (e.g. Virtual Dub with proper codec) then Video Studio should be able to edit without glitches.

Like i said in my first post i use "Mp4Cam2AVI" program to convert from .mov to .avi.

The final output goes to DVD format for burning and a copy in DivX for youtube.

[pepegot1]

No problems with mpeg 2. As alluded to above, mpeg 4 is a bear. If you use the software at the high end, problems can develop.

[edDV]

Video Studio is decompressing your MPeg4 but is making the sound errors you don't like.

If you decompress MPeg4 extrenally (e.g. Virtual Dub with proper codec) then Video Studio should be able to edit without glitches.

Like i said in my first post i use "Mp4Cam2AVI" program to convert from .mov to .avi.

The final output goes to DVD format for burning and a copy in DivX for youtube.

AVI is a container. You are converting to dvix/xvid which causes Video Studio to struggle.

[eccentric-eric]

Video Studio is decompressing your MPeg4 but is making the sound errors you don't like.

If you decompress MPeg4 extrenally (e.g. Virtual Dub with proper codec) then Video Studio should be able to edit without glitches.

Like i said in my first post i use "Mp4Cam2AVI" program to convert from .mov to .avi.

The final output goes to DVD format for burning and a copy in DivX for youtube.

AVI is a container. You are converting to dvix/xvid which causes Video Studio to struggle.

Your misunderstanding me. I'm not converting it to DivX until i render or output the FINISHED EDITED FILE with VS10. During editing it's just a AVI MJPEG or whatever you call it.

[edDV]

Video Studio is decompressing your MPeg4 but is making the sound errors you don't like.

If you decompress MPeg4 extrenally (e.g. Virtual Dub with proper codec) then Video Studio should be able to edit without glitches.

Like i said in my first post i use "Mp4Cam2AVI" program to convert from .mov to .avi.

The final output goes to DVD format for burning and a copy in DivX for youtube.

AVI is a container. You are converting to dvix/xvid which causes Video Studio to struggle.

Your misunderstanding me. I'm not converting it to DivX until i render or output the FINISHED EDITED FILE with VS10. During editing it's just a AVI MJPEG or whatever you call it.

I thought you said your digital camera rerorded to MPeg4. Most record to MJPEG wrapped in AVI or Quicktime.

[eccentric-eric]

Video Studio is decompressing your MPeg4 but is making the sound errors you don't like.

If you decompress MPeg4 extrenally (e.g. Virtual Dub with proper codec) then Video Studio should be able to edit without glitches.

Like i said in my first post i use "Mp4Cam2AVI" program to convert from .mov to .avi.

The final output goes to DVD format for burning and a copy in DivX for youtube.

AVI is a container. You are converting to dvix/xvid which causes Video Studio to struggle.

Your misunderstanding me. I'm not converting it to DivX until i render or output the FINISHED EDITED FILE with VS10. During editing it's just a AVI MJPEG or whatever you call it.

I thought you said your digital camera rerorded to MPeg4. Most record to MJPEG wrapped in AVI or Quicktime.

I use a program i told you to convert the .mov to .avi uncompressed. did you read my first post?

a quote from the Tools section "MP4Cam2AVI converts video from .MP4, .MOV to .AVI WITHOUT RECOMPRESSION, that means no quality loss and much faster converson"

[edDV]

Video Studio is decompressing your MPeg4 but is making the sound errors you don't like.

If you decompress MPeg4 extrenally (e.g. Virtual Dub with proper codec) then Video Studio should be able to edit without glitches.

Like i said in my first post i use "Mp4Cam2AVI" program to convert from .mov to .avi.

The final output goes to DVD format for burning and a copy in DivX for youtube.

AVI is a container. You are converting to dvix/xvid which causes Video Studio to struggle.

Your misunderstanding me. I'm not converting it to DivX until i render or output the FINISHED EDITED FILE with VS10. During editing it's just a AVI MJPEG or whatever you call it.

I thought you said your digital camera rerorded to MPeg4. Most record to MJPEG wrapped in AVI or Quicktime.

I use a program i told you to convert the .mov to .avi uncompressed. did you read my first post?

a quote from the Tools section "MP4Cam2AVI converts video from .MP4, .MOV to .AVI WITHOUT RECOMPRESSION, that means no quality loss and much faster converson"

I may be mistaken but I read that site as saying it only converts to divx/xvid. I was looking for a decompression option.

[eccentric-eric]

can anyone help me? I have been waiting for several days to continue editing and i can't get the voiceover audio to not be distorted.

[edDV]

Lets start over. What is your digital camera model?
We need to find out if it records to MJPEG like most or MPeg4.

I can directly edit MJPEG from my VS9 because I have a Video for Windows MJPEG codec that VS9 can use. I'm not sure which program loaded the MJPEG codec.

This is Canon's movie file, an MJPEG + PCM mono in an AVI wrapper.



MJPEG and PCM are easily editied. Not the case for MPeg4.

[edDV]

If you have a MJPEG or MPeg4 codec, it will appear in your Video Studio Project settings. If not you need to get a codec that matches your camera format. Here you can see a Mainconcept MJPEG codec and an MJPEG compressor. The second one may just output MJPEG not decode it.



As for the Mainconcept MJPEG codec, you either get it free bundled into an application or you pay $21.
http://www.mainconcept.com/site/consumer-products-4/motion-jpeg-codec-785/information-797.html

[eccentric-eric]

it's a quicktime motion jpg format. .mov most if not all cameras these days has that format. there's lots of discussion about that on Uleads forum. I can't edit in that format as the sound goes haywire.
one thread: http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?p=110543#110543

[edDV]

it's a quicktime motion jpg format. .mov most if not all cameras these days has that format. there's lots of discussion about that on Uleads forum. I can't edit in that format as the sound goes haywire.
one thread: http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?p=110543#110543

If you would just ID your damn camera it would help zero in.

Sound should be PCM or MPeg1 which is editable if you use the cam file. Sound editng problems are often solved by converting to PCM (uncompressed) but you risk loss of sync if video is MPeg.

What was all this about in your original post about converting the file to divx/xvid with Mp4Cam2AVI and then editing that with VS10? That should be tough to edit.

Are you saying your computer has an MJPEG codec? I don't think VS10 ships with one.

"The video clips are the special Quicktime movie file from my camera that i converted to AVI with "Mp4Cam2AVI" program. "

[Nelson37]

Eric - It would appear the software Mp4cam2avi is in fact creating compressed Divx or Xvid files. It seems to be more of a transcoder, the files are not RE-Compressed but they are NOT UN-Compressed, either. This is on the basis of a 5-second investigation.

Suggest you increase your understanding of what "AVI" means, which is essentially nothing without further information.

Suggest you identify your camera as repeatedly requested.

Suggest you get Gspot or something similar in order to correctly identify your file. If you think you have done so at this point, just stop and start reading.

Video Studio products have largely sucked for quite some time. Suggest you try something else. Anything else, anything at all.

[eccentric-eric]

it's a quicktime motion jpg format. .mov most if not all cameras these days has that format. there's lots of discussion about that on Uleads forum. I can't edit in that format as the sound goes haywire.
one thread: http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?p=110543#110543

If you would just ID your damn camera it would help zero in.

Sound should be PCM or MPeg1 which is editable if you use the cam file. Sound editng problems are often solved by converting to PCM (uncompressed) but you risk loss of sync if video is MPeg.

What was all this about in your original post about converting the file to divx/xvid with Mp4Cam2AVI and then editing that with VS10? That should be tough to edit.

Are you saying your computer has an MJPEG codec? I don't think VS10 ships with one.

"The video clips are the special Quicktime movie file from my camera that i converted to AVI with "Mp4Cam2AVI" program. "

My damn camera is a Panasonic TZ1

I said before i convert the files to AVI uncompressed, for editing. The movie file is QT Jpeg the sound is 8000hz 8bit sample rate 1 ch and 64 KBps

[eccentric-eric]

Eric - It would appear the software Mp4cam2avi is in fact creating compressed Divx or Xvid files. It seems to be more of a transcoder, the files are not RE-Compressed but they are NOT UN-Compressed, either. This is on the basis of a 5-second investigation.

Suggest you increase your understanding of what "AVI" means, which is essentially nothing without further information.

Suggest you identify your camera as repeatedly requested.

Suggest you get Gspot or something similar in order to correctly identify your file. If you think you have done so at this point, just stop and start reading.

Video Studio products have largely sucked for quite some time. Suggest you try something else. Anything else, anything at all.

edit:
I tried Movie Edit Pro which looks superior to the others, but it don't get a picture for my camera videos converted to AVI. Sound is fine. I don't know how to get a picture.

[edDV]

Eric - It would appear the software Mp4cam2avi is in fact creating compressed Divx or Xvid files. It seems to be more of a transcoder, the files are not RE-Compressed but they are NOT UN-Compressed, either. This is on the basis of a 5-second investigation.

Suggest you increase your understanding of what "AVI" means, which is essentially nothing without further information.

Suggest you identify your camera as repeatedly requested.

Suggest you get Gspot or something similar in order to correctly identify your file. If you think you have done so at this point, just stop and start reading.

Video Studio products have largely sucked for quite some time. Suggest you try something else. Anything else, anything at all.

I tried Movie Edit Pro which looks superior to the others, but it don't get a picture for my original camera videos. Sound is fine. I don't know how to get a picture.

OK
Panasonic TZ1 has MJPEG in MOV wrapper and PCM sound
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0602/06021405panasonictz1.asp

The reason you don't see the file is somebody needs to pay for the MJPEG CODEC royalty licence and that doesn't happen in free or low cost programs. Ulead VS seems to come with the MJPEG encoder but not the decoder. The Premium versions of these programs sometimes include the MJPEG decoder. Look for "digital camera movie support". If you get the full MJPEG codec like Mainconcept or PicVideo or Morgan Media, all applications can see and use the codec.

Sombody has listed a reverse engineered MJPEG codec that is free but I forget what it is. Programs like VLC internally decode and play MJPEG but don't install the codec into Windows for general program use. It turns out Firefox also plays MJPEG files but Internet Explorer won't without an external codec.


I found this link in wikipedia. It looks like they are taking advantage of hardware MJPEG codecs.
http://mjpeg.sourceforge.net/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MJPEG

[eccentric-eric]

here is a converted to avi file with G spot
nice program i haven't put it on my PC in a few years. It may be better than the one i had.
why does it tell me my that program is [junk] on the user data line?

[eccentric-eric]

And the original file format.

[eccentric-eric]

did you guys see my last posts?

[edDV]

here is a converted to avi file with G spot
nice program i haven't put it on my PC in a few years. It may be better than the one i had.
why does it tell me my that program is [junk] on the user data line?

GSpot doesn't convert. It shows what you have.


"User Data / Metadata" is inserted by the program. It seems this program pulled the MJPEG and PCM audio out of a Quicktime wrapper and put it into an AVI wrapper. Are you happy with the result?

You still need an MJPEG decoder to edit. VLC or Firefox will allow you to play the video. Try those.

[eccentric-eric]

here is a converted to avi file with G spot
nice program i haven't put it on my PC in a few years. It may be better than the one i had.
why does it tell me my that program is [junk] on the user data line?

GSpot doesn't convert. It shows what you have.


"User Data / Metadata" is inserted by the program. It seems this program pulled the MJPEG and PCM audio out of a Quicktime wrapper and put it into an AVI wrapper. Are you happy with the result?

You still need an MJPEG decoder to edit. VLC or Firefox will allow you to play the video. Try those.

I'm happy with the conversion. But i thought i already have the decoder. I can play those files on my computer and videostudio does edit them. just audio glitches and distorted voiceover audio on Videostudio 10 like i said over and over again. It's just Magix Movie Edit Pro that doesn't get a picture from those files. Oh and Windows gives a black thumbnail image for them as well.

[edDV]

here is a converted to avi file with G spot
nice program i haven't put it on my PC in a few years. It may be better than the one i had.
why does it tell me my that program is [junk] on the user data line?

GSpot doesn't convert. It shows what you have.


"User Data / Metadata" is inserted by the program. It seems this program pulled the MJPEG and PCM audio out of a Quicktime wrapper and put it into an AVI wrapper. Are you happy with the result?

You still need an MJPEG decoder to edit. VLC or Firefox will allow you to play the video. Try those.

I'm happy with the conversion. But i thought i already have the decoder. I can play those files on my computer and videostudio does edit them. just audio glitches and distorted voiceover audio on Videostudio 10 like i said over and over again. It's just Magix Movie Edit Pro that doesn't get a picture from those files. Oh and Windows gives a black thumbnail image for them as well.

Ahh OK Magix Movie Edit Pro doesn't have the decoder.
VS11 sees a MJPEG decoder if you see video. That doesn't mean it can edit without audio glitch.

The problem could be ULead VS, the MOV to AVI program or the original Panasonic file.

Detective work isn't this tedious on CSI is it.

[Nelson37]

Use VS10, which can see the file but not cut it, to export to a better format for editing, such as a Huffy AVI, and a WAV file for editing. Then you could use a different editor which should be able to do a better job with a more-standard file.