Researchers: Scrap the Internet and Start Over

[rkr1958]

NEW YORK — Although it has already taken nearly four decades to get this far in building the Internet, some university researchers with the federal government's blessing want to scrap all that and start over.

The idea may seem unthinkable, even absurd, but many believe a "clean slate" approach is the only way to truly address security, mobility and other challenges that have cropped up since UCLA professor Leonard Kleinrock helped supervise the first exchange of meaningless test data between two machines on Sept. 2, 1969.

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Full story at,

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266124,00.html

[Wile_E]

How funny. I wish them good luck with that one.

[JerryB]

hi,
this subject been discussed for years and I agree that it should be scraped...
the present internet was only designed to basically just trasfer files from one company to another and that it....

now were expecting a lot of more of it ie; shopping, showing movies , research, etc...
in addition, it was not designed to handle today's traffic load...!!

then on top of that the present www/htm gui has never really mixed well with the present internet....!! there a fair amount of overhead that the gui eats up before it start showing the basic htm webpage...

well those are my thoughts....

NEW YORK — Although it has already taken nearly four decades to get this far in building the Internet, some university researchers with the federal government's blessing want to scrap all that and start over.

The idea may seem unthinkable, even absurd, but many believe a "clean slate" approach is the only way to truly address security, mobility and other challenges that have cropped up since UCLA professor Leonard Kleinrock helped supervise the first exchange of meaningless test data between two machines on Sept. 2, 1969.

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Full story at,

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266124,00.html

[Soopafresh]

Aka- "We want DRM and complete control"

[JohnnyMalaria]

the present internet was only designed to basically just trasfer files from one company to another

Huh?

The original purpose of the internet was to ensure effective and uninterrupted communications between military and government facilities in the US in the unlikely event of nuclear war (ARPANET).

It was then adopted by academia and remained there for a long time.

Corporate use of the infrastructure of the internet is a more recent application.

[vico1]

Aka- "We want DRM and complete control"

Nowadays, whenever I hear the term "federal government's blessing"...

That little alarm starts ringing!

[gll99]

Won't be long before you have a 2 or 3 tier Internet or a parallel exclusive one. Not talking speed, that's already here, but availability of content and site access.

As technology has evolved and transfer speeds increased, the marketing opportunities are becoming fully apparent to music, video and other industries but the current Internet model doesn't meet their need for greater control over the content and access points. It's inevitable. Just follow the power companies and the dollar signs.

[Cornucopia]

Soopafresh and vico1 are on the right track...


Does anybody think that for one minute, if "new technology" was put together to make a SUPER INTERNET structure, that it wouldn't be chock full of LICENSING ROYALTIES, DRM RESTRICTIONS, TIERED ACCESS (aka haves and havenots), and HEAVY MONITORING (aka Govt & Corporate snooping)?
The man/team who put together the HTTP system chose WISELY to release it into the public domain.
Wouldn't happen the next time.

Treasure the gift we've already got...

Scott

[MOVIEGEEK]

Although I don't believe the internet is broken I do believe they need to make it safer.I especially liked this qoute from the article:
" These clean-slate efforts are still in their early stages, though, and aren't expected to bear fruit for another 10 or 15 years — assuming Congress comes through with funding."
I think the private sector should front the costs since they are the ones most likely to benefit but they are also the ones most likely to embed DRM,etc.

[oldandinthe way]

A new Internet is inevitable.

The technology used by the Internet today is a crazy quilt of clever ideas for small applications which are now running a significant portion of the economy.

There is only so far one can go layering ad hoc solutions on this framework.

It is unlikley that the new replacement (or replacements) for the Internet will be as open or receptive to extention but it is more likely to be secure and reliable.

Because the Congress has meddled in the area of "network fairness", it is likely that these replacements will not be available until several years after the current net proves inadequate in bandwidth and security.

[Anakin]

I heard that the first thing transfered over the net was porn

[Nitemare]

What do we need this for, REALLY? Seriously... the internet... people use it to donwload files, chat, e-mail, surf for porn -- share images and videos, do research, etc.... While I enjoy it a lot, the internet is essentially an amusing way to waste time with an occasional educational benefit. (like this excellent site)

The ONLY people who might need a new internet are corporations and they should foot the bill for it. They should also keep it private and get off of the "public" internet.

I've been online long enough to remember when even attempting to sell something on the internet was an invitation to be ping-bombed (and e-mail bombed) into oblivion. Now they call these "Denial of Service" attacks and it's a crime. (ahh... the good old days)

I recognize that private industry has driven the internet forward, and I appreciate those contributions and technological advancements. The other side of the coin is that now we have banner ads, pop-ups, streaming commercials, scam artists, etc.

No amount of security will fix this and neither will a "new internet". Someone exploits everything eventually. Corporations (and the government) are just annoyed because the the online community was born under their noses and without their controls in place. Naturally they'll try to "fix" this.

But seriously... what do we, as consumers and netizens, need a new internet for? Security? Hogwash!

[lordsmurf]

The biggest problem with the Internet is the huge amounts of misinformation and other useless bullshit. Between moon-landing and Holocaust-denial websites, wikipedia editors that make stuff up instead of relying on facts, garbage like myspace.com, not to mention underground kiddie porn and terrorist sites, it's got a sewage problem. Where do we flush the crap?

How could "starting over" address this? It probably cannot.

Spam is a traffic issue, if nothing else. Fix that.

[Nitemare]

lordsmurf wrote:

not to mention underground kiddie porn and terrorist sites, it's got a sewage problem. Where do we flush the crap?

Sustained ping-bombing!!! "The people" used to police the internet themselves before the government (at corporate urging) made that illegal.