burning SVCD on DVD disc

[tripled06]

Hi all,

Ok, heres my problem.....

I have divx videos which i want to convert to svcd format (this is not the problem). I then want to take these new svcd format vids and put them on a dvd (this part is the problem). I have read a tutorial of how to do this using dvd-lab. However, in this tutorial the person allready has the svcd videos on a cd and is taking it off the cd to put it on a dvd. However, I am not doing this. I dont have the videos on an svcd allready. I have them on my Hard Disk.

Basically what I want to do is to take all my divx videos, convert them to svcd videos, and then burn them onto a dvd disc.

Is there anyway in which I can do this (without going near cd's)?

(Hope ya get what I mean)

Thanks to you all who took the time to read/reply to my problem.

Thank You,

Dan.

[Baldrick]

WHY convert to svcd and then to DVD? Convert to dvd directly, you can use lower frame size/resolution and bitrate similiar to a SVCD. Use any mpeg encoder like tmpgenc xpress, tmpgenc plus, mainconcept mpeg encoder, canopus procoder and choose dvd and other settings...click on the encoders for guides. If that is too much work use an all-in-one encoder like DivXtoDVD, ConvERtXtoDVD instead.

[tripled06]

First of all, thanks for replying so soon.

I was under the impression (from reading this website: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=59489) that it might be possible and alot quicker to convert to svcd and then burn the svcd directly onto a dvd disc.

I read that although i want to put the svcd onto a dvd disc, I dont have to actually convert the svcd to dvd. I could just leave it in the same format.

(Though i'm not entirely sure.... I'm sort of a newbie to all this conversion stuff)

[mwkurt]

You read right...SVCD is compliant on most DVD players and will play on most as is.
DVDLab will take them as they are. It will scold you a little bit but you can ignore that
and continue making your DVD.
You didn't say what encoder you were going to use to make your SVCD mpeg files.
Anyway, SVCD is 480x480 at a bitrate of around 2050, I think. Make your audio 48KHz.
Demux your mpeg files and put them into DVDLab and continue from there.
Mark

[Baldrick]

No, converting to svcd is NOT a lot quicker...it mainly depends on the encoder(for example : CCE Basic = fastest, TMpgenc Plus = Slow), what type encoding (CBR, VBR) and what resolution you use.

Yep, you can put the svcd on dvd without conversion but it wont be a compliant dvd and as it's not much faster to encode to svcd I don't see the point...

[jman98]

It's not clear to me what you want to do. If you want to burn SVCD format video to DVD discs as SVCD format, that won't work. If you burn SVCD compliant files to DVD discs not in SVCD format but rather as data files on a DVD-ROM, some DVD players that support Divx will play the files in "file play mode". I hope you understand the difference. You can't author a SVCD on a DVD disc with the MPEG, etc. subdirectories but you can burn an SVCD file to a data disc and sometimes it works on DVD players that play Divx because they understand how to play "raw" MPEG files like this.

SVCD resolutions are NOT valid for DVD, although DVD-Lab will let you do it. The reason is that the DVD format specification was actually designed before SVCD existed. There's no reason that a DVD player can't play such a disc if it understands SVCD anyway. If you don't use DVD-Lab, it requires either patching the SVCD video to have a fake header with a valid DVD resolution, authoring the DVD and then re-patching the video header to show the true resolution or you have to re-encode the video to DVD compliant resolutions. You also have to be sure the audio is 48 KHz and not the 44 KHz that SVCD uses. It's an advanced topic for sure and maybe not the best thing for a new guy to cut his teeth on.

[JonnyCabs]

According to your profile you only have a CD burner??
IF you DO have a DVD burner then by far your easiest option is as follows....

Download this program.....
http://freedownload.softonic.de/windows/vsoDivxToDVD_setup_0.52.99.exe

Follow the "simple" instructions to load-up your DivX file(s)
They will be converted to DVD format (VOBs/IFOs etc) at approx. twice real-time speed according to your processor speed
(IE 90 minute film converted in approx. 40 to 45 minutes)
Burn them...........

It REALLY is that simple

[MistaED]

Actually, DVD-Lab makes this process very simple. Import the svcd mpeg into DVD-Lab. The program will ask you if you want to demultiplex into elementary streams, which you will do. It will also take the elementary audio stream and resample it to the dvd compliant sampling rate of 48khz automatically. Then it's a simplematter of dragging your video stream and your newly resampled audio stream to the appropriate movie window, set your chapter points, and create the appropriate links between movies if your source is composed of more than 1 svcd mpeg.

[TBoneit]

I just don't get it, if you are starting with Divx and converting to mpeg for DVD why not just use 1/2 D1 and be full DVD standard format that any player will play.

They do not all play SVCD. If you want quality? As cheap as DVDs then go with JonnyCabs suggestion and just do one movie per DVD.

Of course even easier is just buy a Phillips 5960 and play the Divx files direct from a DVD. 6 700 Mb Divx for example fit onto a Data format DVD with room left over. And you didn't lose any of the "ahem" divx's quality.

[mcvane]

I think I know what he wants to do, because it's what I want to do, and was going to ask...

Instead of simply creating VCDs and burning them to a CD (which is about 2 hours of video potentially), couldn't we burn the same VCDs to a DVDR to allow a lot more hours worth of video at the same VCD quality?

Basically, I'd love to be able to record TV shows or captured video and store hours of it on a few discs rather than several DVDs...the best video quality is not a concern for me.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

[guns1inger]

Look at What is DVD to see the resolutions, bitrates and codecs allowed for DVD. Yes, VCD resolution is within the VD spec. SVCD is not.

However, unless your source is YouTube videos, why would you want to put VCD resolution on a DVD ? The quality is appalling in comparison to DVD. To me, the quality sacrifice is in no way compensated for by the extra running time.

[Cornucopia]

Why don't you just leave your video clips alone and get a DivX-capable player?

You could burn more DivX files on each DVD, the quality would be as good as the DivX originals (is that an oxymoron?), and you'd have a whole lot less steps and time involved.

Scott

[jman98]

However, unless your source is YouTube videos, why would you want to put VCD resolution on a DVD ? The quality is appalling in comparison to DVD. To me, the quality sacrifice is in no way compensated for by the extra running time.

I am NOT arguing or suggesting that you don't have a point because you certainly do, but I can explain why people might want to do this.
1) Properly encoded VCD, while it's never going to be as good as DVD, is really not as bad as you might think. Letterboxing reduces the image size, allowing more precious bits to go to the video, thus improving quality. I've got some commercial VCDs from Hong Kong for movies I just wanted to see as cheaply as possible and while they aren't DVD quality, they are a lot better in terms of quality that some 5+ year old VCDs I have of old Jet Li movies. If you haven't seen recent commercial VCD encodes, you might not appreciate that the quality has improved a lot in recent years.
2) Some people really don't care at all, not even a little, for quality. I have a good friend who records a lot in VCD because he doesn't care at all about quality and making VCDs is really easy. I've seen his work and it's got macroblocks all over the place and it's really bad and almost unwatchable, but he has no problem at all with it.