CCE-SP 2.64???

[kabanero]

Hi,
Has anybody got CCE SP 2.64 upgrade or full version? News on the web says it now supports VCD and SVCD encoding. I was wondering how is the VCD and SVCD video encoding quality compare to TMPEGEmc.

[Truman]

VCD and SVCD support means only, that cce will mux video and audio to a (S)VCD compliant MPEG. I did guess, that CCE SP 2.64 will resize to 480x480, but no, actually there is nothing new. No resize except half horizontal / half vertical. And of course, it does not read .avs or .vdr.
Quality is the same as version 2.62.
Garbage.

[Khizhiy]

From my point of view, CCE SP 2.62 is much better in quality then TMPGEnc 2.x. I have done tests on images involving water surface. Water is really hard to compress. CCE SP did much better. I could see that comparing the image blockiness.

By the way, I wonder, is there a better software MPEG-2 compressor then CCE SP?

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Khizhiy on 2002-01-11 07:29:18 ]</font>

[homerpez]

I heard rumors that 2.6+ versions of CCE don't do frameserving... and since I can only get CCE to work WHILE FRAMESERVING, this is a problem.

Does 2.6+ open VFAPI-project ".avi" files? Or is that a no-go too?

[kabanero]

I don't care about frameserving because I edit my captured AVIs many times before I convert to TMPEGEnc.
Also, I did some testing encoding to MPEG-2 with CCE 2.62 and TMPEGEnc 2.5 with similar settings. Results are:

TMPEGEnc wins in quality. Yes.
CCE wins in speed.

I prefere quality for myself.

[Kdiddy]

2.64 supposedly does not offer any gains in quality or speed...but to add to the debate, LOL

I as well prefer CCE's speed AND quality over that of TMPG.

[homerpez]

All due respect: if anyone, anywhere, picks TMPGEnc's quality over CCE... they need to get their eyes checked, and their head dexamined very thoroughly.

For MPEG-2 especially, CCE renders TMPGEnc absolutely useless. Especially for VBR extending to lower bitrate. I have several SVCD's where the average bitrate is only 900-something, and the movie is over 100 minutes long. With CCE, I can encode it at full 480x480, and have a sharper picture with less blockiness than a VCD made by TMPGEnc!

But let's not have another CCE/TMPGEnc debate...

Anyway, I hear that Spain has... ug... "sold out" of 2.62...

[jaw2957]

With regards to mpeg 2 encoding there really isn't a comparison with CCE and TMPEG, CCE is far superior. I am not talking about all the features and ease of use, I am just talking about pixelation. With the same settings, CCE will not have any blockiness, and TMPEG is horrible in complex sequences. This isn't my opinion either. That is how it is. For vcd's, don't even waste your time with CCE, use tmpeg.

[frotsen]

cce 2.64 demo

http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/mpg/ccspt264.exe

Enjoy
frotsen

[Truman]

homerpez, CCE SP 2.6x opens *vfapi.avi. So you can use TMPG or Aviutl filters and convert the projects. VFAPI converter 1.03b even converts .avs and .vdr.

[Khizhiy]

homerpez, TMPEnc/CCE debate is useless, allright. But is there a software MPEG-2 compressor that is even better in quality then CCE?

[Kdiddy]

Doubtful

[natcom]

i want the 2.62 of CCE sp i really want to try it out