Having problems Using DL for DVD Backups

[PureBurn]

I just recently purchased a Gateway computer that has a DVD burner. I am new to this burning procedure but wanted to back up my DVD movies on a 1:1 ratio so they will not look grainy/blocky during certain parts of the movies.

I am using DVD Shrink 3.2 to create my VIDEO_TS folder and have the selection DVD-9 selected for my Dual Layer DVDs. I also unchecked the "Remove layer break"

I get problems when I use Nero. I know people don't like Nero but I didn't have a problem making the back up when I used a Single Layer DVD+R, just a DL DVD+R. I use Memorex Brand.

I'm going to try to provide all I can and maybe you can help me find my problem.

On Nero this is what is says my device is:



When I burn this is what I get:

Log:

Owner

1A20-0316-0010-1205-0007-9835

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 12/16/2003 10:18:06 PM
Nero version: 6.3.1.17 (Nero Express)
Recorder: <QSI DVD+-RW SDW-082> Version: LX44 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.17
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <QSI DVD+-RW SDW-082 >Version: LX44 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.17
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : IC25N060ATMR04-0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : QSI DVD+-RW SDW-082 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
QSI DVD+-RW SDW-082 E: CDRom0
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 2038MB (2087344kB)
Free physical memory: 1534MB (1571224kB)
Memory in use : 24 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

26.2.2007
UDF/ISO compilation
5:20:47 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
DVD-Video files reallocation started

5:20:49 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

5:20:49 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6065
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

5:20:49 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
DVD-Video files sorted

5:20:50 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

5:20:50 PM #6 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

5:20:50 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

5:20:50 PM #8 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3172
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

5:20:50 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Last possible write address on media: 4173823 (927:30.73, 8151MB)
Last address to be written: 3728415 (828:32.15, 7282MB)

5:20:50 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 257
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

5:20:50 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2137
Recorder: QSI DVD+-RW SDW-082, Media type: DVD+R9 Double Layer
Disc Manufacturer ID: RICOHJPN, Media Type ID: D00, Product revision number: 1
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 0

5:20:50 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 418
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

5:20:50 PM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 3728416 (3728416) = #3728416/828:32.16
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 3728416 blocks [QSI DVD+-RW SDW-082 ]
--------------------------------------------------------------

5:20:50 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 984
Prepare recorder [QSI DVD+-RW SDW-082 ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 7635795968, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
3728416 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

5:20:50 PM #15 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Caching of files started

5:20:50 PM #16 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4182
Cache writing successful.

5:20:50 PM #17 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Caching of files completed

5:20:50 PM #18 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

5:20:50 PM #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2344
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

5:20:51 PM #20 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1188
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x03816000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0xBF 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x0C 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0B
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05

5:20:51 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 444
L0 Data Zone Capacity set to 1864320 (1C7280h, 3641MB) -> ERROR, capacity different:
L0 Data Zone Capacity on disc: 2086912 (1FD800h, 2038MB)
L0 Data Zone Capacity requested to be set: 1864320 (1C7280h, 3641MB)

5:20:51 PM #22 CDR -1046 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1614
Illegal disc

5:20:51 PM #23 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1614
Could not perform start of Disc-at-once

5:20:51 PM #24 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

5:20:51 PM #25 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 10:07:32 PM
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/4/2004 12:59:44 AM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


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Now I used ImgBurn and this is what it said my device was:


QSI DVD+-RW SDW-082 LX44 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R DL

Disc Information:
Status: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 4,173,824
Free Space: 8,547,991,552 bytes
Free Time: 927:32:74 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x

DVD±R DL Boundary Information:
L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912
Changeable: Yes

Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: RICOHJPN-D00-01
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: RICOHJPN-D00-01
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,520




Nothing shows up on the INFORMATION tab........


Log


I 17:25:32 ImgBurn Version 2.2.0.0 started!
I 17:25:32 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 17:25:32 Total Physical Memory: 2,087,344 KB - Available: 1,579,960 KB
W 17:25:32 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.
I 17:25:32 Initialising SPTI...
I 17:25:32 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 17:25:32 Found 1 DVD±RW!
I 17:28:02 Operation Started!
I 17:28:02 Building Image Tree...
I 17:28:02 Checking Directory Depth...
I 17:28:02 Calculating Totals...
I 17:28:03 Preparing Image...
I 17:28:18 Using Layer Break LBA: 1992356 -> 1992368 (VTS_08, PGC: 1, Chapter: 10, Cell: 12, Vob/Cell ID: 5/1, Time: 01:07:52, SPLIP: No)
I 17:28:18 Checking Path Length...
I 17:28:18 Image Size: 7,635,271,680 bytes
I 17:28:18 Image Sectors: 3,728,160
I 17:28:21 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:19
I 17:28:22 Operation Started!
I 17:28:22 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 17:28:22 Source File Sectors: 3,728,160 (MODE1/2048)
I 17:28:22 Source File Size: 7,635,271,680 bytes
I 17:28:22 Source File Volume Identifier: The Island
I 17:28:22 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.2.0.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 17:28:22 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 17:28:22 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 17:28:22 Destination Device: [1:0:0] QSI DVD+-RW SDW-082 LX44 (E (ATA)
I 17:28:22 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RICOHJPN-D00-01) (Speeds: 2.4x)
I 17:28:22 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 17:28:22 Write Mode: DVD
I 17:28:22 Write Type: DAO
I 17:28:22 Write Speed: MAX
I 17:28:22 Link Size: Auto
I 17:28:22 Test Mode: No
I 17:28:22 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 17:28:22 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,992,368
I 17:28:22 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: IFO Cell Boundary, 'SPLIP' Flag Not Set
I 17:28:26 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 17:28:26 Writing LeadIn...
W 17:28:26 Failed to Write Sectors 0 - 31 - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (1 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (2 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (3 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (4 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (5 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (6 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (7 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (8 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (9 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (10 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (11 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (12 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (13 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (14 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (15 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (16 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (17 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (18 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (19 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 17:28:26 Retrying (20 of 20)...
W 17:28:26 Retry Failed - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
E 17:28:28 Failed to Write Sectors 0 - 31 - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
I 17:28:28 Synchronising Cache...
E 17:28:30 Synchronise Cache Failed! - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
I 17:28:30 Synchronising Cache (Last Attempt!)...
E 17:28:30 Synchronise Cache Failed! - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
I 17:28:30 Closing Track...
E 17:28:31 Close Track Failed! - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
I 17:28:31 Closing Track (Last Attempt!)...
E 17:28:31 Close Track Failed! - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
I 17:28:31 Finalising Disc...
E 17:28:32 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
I 17:28:32 Finalising Disc (Last Attempt!)...
E 17:28:32 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
E 17:28:32 Failed to Write Image!
E 17:28:32 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:10
I 17:28:32 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A









Any Ideas? Does my burner not support DL? Is there a setting I am missing?

Thank you for any advice.

[t0nee1]

Try burning with IMGBurn instead, and use Verbatim DVD+R DL media... Shrink does a poor job of dealing with layer break!!! search the forums,and you'll see others will agree..... good luck.

[guns1inger]

Use DVDInfoPro to tell you what your burner supports.

[oldandinthe way]

I have not yet gotten a successful burn with Ricoh DL media.

Unlike your results, mine fail halfway through the second layer with every tool I've tried.

Your drive appears not to like the media at all. Failing on the leadin. Discussion of layer breaks is irrelevant.

[jman98]

PureBurn - If you REALLY want your burns to work, I am going to give you some blunt advice.

1) Do NOT burn with Nero. Until you are willing to stop using Nero, you are wasting your time. Did you know that Nero didn't set the layer break correctly and some say it's never been fixed? Take a look at:
http://www.digital-digest.com/~blutach/pgcedit_guide/burning_with_pgcedit/burning_with...pgcedit_v2.htm
for an explanation as to why you should NEVER EVER use Nero to burn DVDs. DVD Shrink is bad news too. If you must use DVD Shrink, you better use PgcEdit to make an ISO and then burn it with ImgBurn. There are GOOD reasons why people don't like Nero. You would do well to read my link and learn some of them.
2) Stop using crap media! Seriously, if you aren't willing to buy Verbatim DL +R DVD discs, you might as well not even be burning. Take a look at:
http://www.nomorecoasters.com
for a discussion on good/bad media.

If you are unwilling to address problems 1 & 2, then good luck to you because you will need it. I am not trying to offend you but I am trying to be blunt to get you to understand that there is a better way to do this that works.

[guns1inger]

If you read all his post you would see he has moved to imgburn for burning, but still failed. this confirms that he needs to move to better media.

[oldandinthe way]

If you read and understood either the nero or the imgburn logs you would realize that the problem was drive/media incompatibility not the burning software. The diagnosis would be equivalent with either log alone.

If I saw any reports of a drive model which was successful with Ricoh DL media I would suggest seeking a drive which was compatible with that media.

Since I can't I suggest he move to a media which has a history of success with his model drive. If there is one.

I have a spindle of SONY labeled Ricoh DL media that I test whenever I have access to another drive model. So far nothing has succeeded in burning it.

In my experience the problems solved by burning with imgburn relate to successful execution of DVDs with menus on DVDplayers and software players. I see no difference based on the position of the layer break on any movie only DVDs I have burned, but these tests have had only one soundtrack and no subtitles.

Needless to say your experience may differ.

[PureBurn]

So I decided to splurge and buy some Verbatim DL disks and retry to burn with ImgBurn. Didn't have a problem.

Thanks for the help.....now my question is:

How come people don't like DVD shrink to create their VIDEO_TS? What is the advantage of an ISO created by another program then just what DVD shrink can do.

Anyhelp would be great thanks.....

My movie is playing now to see if the breaks are any good.