general interlacing shite.

[flaninacupboard]

i never usually worry about deinterlacing DVD's, but this time i'm going to have to.....
I'm ripping Spaced, from DVD, encoding to XVCD. the programme itself looks fine, but the titles scroll across the bottom of the screen, and frankly, look like shite. ive tried -all- the deinterlacing options in tmpgenc, and im stumped as to what else to try. maybe something in Vdub will help? or is there a way i can make tmpgenc simply ignore one field (as its only going to 353X288 anyway.)

Cheers.

[poopyhead]

well..blend (adaptive) [or in newest versions double (adaptive)] seems to be the best "de-interlace" option.

however, in certain movies that are pure NTSC, i couldn't use the "de-interlace" filter at all cuz the resulting rip was really bad quality and jumpy. wut sefy told me to do was to turn OFF forced film in dvd2avi and make my output video interlaced, rather than 3:2 pulldown.

btw..if you try to play your rip on a TV and it's jumpy, it's prolly cuz u chose the wrong field order.

[homerpez]

...um...

When the vertical resolution is under 300... doesn't it get rid of interlace by default? (Since the lines blend in and you lose a field)? Or is this a PAL thing?

I personally would start making SVCD's, then you can encode Interlaced format IN and OUT, and this will no longer be a problem (played on a TV of course).

[poopyhead]

homerpez, ya...but that's the point of "de-interlace"....it works most of the time when the video source is predominantly progressive (non-interlaced)...however, try using it on a pure NTSC source (i.e. chris rock: bigger & blacker and you'll c wut i'm talking about: jumying and blurry as hell.

sefy's method of not using forced film will not reduce the resolution, so the picture will still be sharp....

[Mars-L]

Hey poopyhead,

I also tried that Chris Rock title and so far without luck. So am wondering how you did that. Besides I have another problenm; I want it in PAL....(living in The Netherlands)

Greetz
Mars-L

[poopyhead]

Mars-L,

o heh...i'm assuming u using the general smartripper->dvd2avi->tmpgenc procedure...

if you want yours to be in PAL, u cannot use FORCED FILM at all. i'm not too familar with PAL stuff, but for Chris Rock, (on the video output tab) click on interlaced, rather than 3:2 pulldown. leave the framerate as is...

(on the video source tab), the source should be interlaced...and field order is important in this case cuz u chose for output video to be interlaced, so if you choose the wrong field order, the video will be jumpy (if you play it on TV, won't be noticed on computer monitor). best bet is to experiment on cd-rw.

[flaninacupboard]

yeah, im on about a PAL conversion. i tried outputting to interlaced mpeg2, and the problem was actually worse. i tried it with the fields in the opposite order, and it was stil terrible. homerpez, i was also under the impression it would only read/use one filed. apparently not......

[poopyhead]

flaninacupboard, did you make sure your other settings were correct for PAL?

like the resolution, source aspect ratio, etc???

[Mars-L]

I also have the problem Flaninacupboard mentions. Which ever field I choose, it's all like shit. So far I haven't found a good way to convert an Interlaced-NTSC movie to a good quality and none jumpy/stuttering PAL movie.
Infact I gave up (till I heard a good way) and convert them to NTSC as my DVD-player can play them too.
Hiteker BI-600E (= Apex 600AD) with the patched Haier700 firmware that's region free, MV off, RCE proof and supports MiniDVD.