JOIN TWO *.AVI FILES?!

[insc]

How can I join 2 *.avi Files but without VirtualDub. In VirtualDub a stupid error message appears when I try to open one of the files.

[mats.hogberg]

What "stupid" error message did you get? VirtualDub is usually the best tool for this task...

/Mats

[insc]

This is the error message I get when trying to open one of the parts (2nd). But the problem is that in AVICodec I can see that it is just like the 1st part.. the same codecs and all. I don't understand this error message

That's why I want to try with another program.

[leetbeagle]

There is a program on this site called AVI Joiner. I suspect that it would do the trick. I used it once. Seemed to work.

NJK

[mats.hogberg]

Try updating your XviD codec and/or ffdshow. Seems to be a problem reading this AVI...

/Mats

[insc]

Mats,
Already done that but still doesn't work. Updated to: ffdshow-20040113.exe | ffvfw-20040113.exe | XviD_1.0-RC2_2004-02-07.exe
and doesn't work.
anyway, I will try to find this AVIJoiner.

[Luke Vader]

the website is in German, but this program is absolutely the easiest program in the world to use...it should join your AVI's for you...it also encodes MPEG1 VCD, MPEG2 SVCD, AVI DV, AVI MPEG4, WAV Audio PCM, and MPEG2 PS...it'll expire after 60 days but all you have to do is reinstall it for 60 more days...it's saved me numerous times...

and best of all...it's freeware 8)

T-Rex

[insc]

hum, that TRex, how do I use it? I have 2 parts.. and both have 700MB, and I Added both of them then clicked on the AVI DV and then NTSC and then the "play" button. And in the 16% it has 2.5GB.. like O M G ! am I doing the right thing?

[Luke Vader]

try to encode it as AVI MPEG4 and see how that works out...i have pretty much used it only for MPEG1 encoding, so i'm not very familiar with it when it comes to AVI's...

are you burning this to a DVD after you join it or what?

[insc]

yes I am, but I must join it into *.mpg or *.avi so that I can test the subtitles.
The Mpeg you're talking about in the TRex is: MPEG VCD?

[Luke Vader]

yes I am, but I must join it into *.mpg or *.avi so that I can test the subtitles.
The Mpeg you're talking about in the TRex is: MPEG VCD?

yep...MPEG1 is VCD encoding

[Luke Vader]

you could always mux the files to MPEG1 or MPEG2 and then join them with TMPGEnc...at least, i think you can join them in TMPGEnc...it's worth a try...

but like mats said, i think it's a codec problem that's keeping it from working in virtualdub...and more than likely, even if trex ends up working for you, you're still going to have the codec problem and something wont be as it should be (either the audio or video) when it completes...

i really dont know what else to suggest...i'm pretty new to all of this stuff myself...

[dez93_2000]

semi-related: i was trying to join many avi's together as 1 avi in virtualdub but the filesize was 4X the sum of the originals. AVI Joiner was crap but FileMerger (tools section) was the business: freeware, couldn't be simpler, tiny program, does exactly what you want with no fuss or frills. Recommended.

[roger_kablam]

The best and easier way to join AVI files is using AVI JOINER, right here:
https://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=Media4PC_MPEG_AVI_Joiner

Its trial, but when it expires, just chance the date of your WIN XP and it keeps working.

[Seeker47]

semi-related: i was trying to join many avi's together as 1 avi in virtualdub but the filesize was 4X the sum of the originals. AVI Joiner was crap but FileMerger (tools section) was the business: freeware, couldn't be simpler, tiny program, does exactly what you want with no fuss or frills. Recommended.

It ain't here -- that link brings up nada. I had to go to like page 4 of hits on a Google search, to find what looks like a current website for this, but I'm hoping the tool you referred to is this one:

http://home.planet.nl/~doesw008/filemerger.html

because there are some other joiner programs out there -- some with similar names -- for things like WORD documents. Anyway, thx for the suggestion.

[DarrellS]

VirtualDub is usually the best tool for this task...

Not really. Unless you captured the clips with Virtualdub as a sequence (01 02 03 04) it will refuse to join them 99 out of 100 times.
You can create the files with Virtualdub from the same source file and encode each clip exactly the same and Virtualdub will refuse to join the same clips that it just created, 99 out of 100 times.
I have spoken with Phaeron many times about this issue and changing the way Virtualdub reads the files (29.970 or 29.97 instead of 29.97000000001) like other programs do or giving you an option to ignore the error message and join them anyway but he refuses to budge on this issue.
The only way to get around this is to save the wave files, change the framerate to 29.970 (even though that's what they already are) and direct stream copy each AVI file without audio, join all the audio files in Goldwave, append all the AVI files without audio and add the joined wave file and compress to MP3 while Direct stream copying the AVI.

There are a few programs out there that will join the files but all of them that I have tried re-encode the AVI which takes a long time to do and defeats the porpose of appendind the files and direct streeam copying.

The process above is time consuming but takes alot less time than re-encoding and doesn't affect the quality of the video since it's still direct stream copying.

If this process is too much and you don't mind recoding to mpeg then using TMPGEnc to convert to mpeg and joining like Luke Vader suggested is a good choice.