Is it really letterboxed?

[buddycat]

I'm working on an animated avi, and while my first project went fine, this one seems to be different. Here is my script:

AVISource("C:\Animated vid.avi")
LanczosResize(688,352,0,0,704,396)
AddBorders(16,64,16,64)
#Trim(0,34526).FadeOut(150)

When I run this through tempgenc, at 720 x 480, it's coming out without the borders on top and bottom and looking a bit squished from the sides.

My tempgenc settings ON the Video tab were"

Size: 720 x 480
4:3 display
NTSC format
(3:2 pulldown)


Under Advanced:

Interlaced (I thought I read somewhere it needs to be this way because you're converting 23.976 to 29.97)
Top field first
Source aspect was 1:1 display

Noodling around, I changed it to non-interlaced and the Video display to 16:9 and when I did a quick clip and put it into my Nero authoring program, it looked like it was supposed to. But is this really the way to do it?

[guns1inger]

It looks like a FitCD script, but I cannot reproduce your numbers using a 1:1 688 x 352 source. What were your setting ?

[manono]

I get something close with a 704x396 source BUT with "Anamorphic" incorrectly checked on the left side as well as ITU resizing, and 2 blocks overscam.

AVIs aren't usually encoded anamorphically, but are usually 1:1. So, uncheck "Anamorphic" on the left (leave it on the right if encoding to 16:9), and make sure you have 1:1 Monitor to the right of "Source" and try again. I can't help with the TMPGEnc settings.

4:3 display

Liie i said, I don't know TMPGEnc settings, but if that means you're encoding for 4:3, then you had better uncheck the Destination "Anamorphic" box.

Interlaced (I thought I read somewhere it needs to be this way because you're converting 23.976 to 29.97)

You read wrong. Your source is progressive. You're encoding progressive, and applying 3:2 pulldown to have your player output 29.97fps. You're not actually converting to 29.97fps, at least you had better not be. But again, someone else can help with the TMPGEnc settings.

Where's that FitCD guide again...

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1487285#1487285

[buddycat]

It looks like a FitCD script, but I cannot reproduce your numbers using a 1:1 688 x 352 source. What were your setting ?

Ah. Yes, I suppose I should have included that, shouldn't I? D'oh. Here's what I have. I did not have anything anamorphic.

[buddycat]

Okay, three things I noticed after looking at the the guide Manono linked me to:

1. I'm wondering if the resizing is right. It worked fine, automatically last time. But maybe not this time?

2. Also, I see there's a slight difference between the aspect for the source and the DVD output.

2. I didn't have the RGB output checked, although I didn't see any problems when doing a couple of test runs.

[buddycat]

Ah ha. I think I had the wrong aspect in TmpGenc! I think I've got it now....

[manono]

Thanks for posting that pic. I got your input resolution correct, but by fooling around in FitCD, trying to duplicate your script, I got just about everything else wrong.

You want ConvertToRGB24() at the bottom of the script for TMPGEnc encoding.

Since you're not doing any cropping, you can have the resize line as LanczosResize(688,352). The rest of what was originally there was for the cropping, which isn't necessary in your case. It doesn't really hurt anything to leave it there, though, just slows the encoding by a very little bit.

Yeah, because the script looks OK, any problems have to be in TMPGEnc.

You might consider encoding for 16:9. The original height was 396. It's a question of lowering it to 352 for 4:3 encoding, or raising it to 448 for 16:9 encoding. Kind of 6 of 1 and half a dozen of another.

[guns1inger]

I mis-read the original and used the wrong resolution. I concur with the numbers. Given the source is 704, I would also go 16:9. Drop in something like blockbuster and asharp to clean it up and put back a little detail, and it should look OK (assuming the source isn't crap to begin with)

[buddycat]

I haven't burned it yet, but checking the RGB option in FIT CD and making sure in tmpgenc that the source aspect is 1:1 seems to have done the trick. At least, it looks that way in the progress window....