Problem with AVI2DVD using PAL to NTSC option

[AZBeagle]

I burned a DVD using AVI2DVD not realizing that the input was PAL. The resulting DVD wouldn't play on either of my home DVD players. So I started AVI2DVD again, this time checking the box for 'PAL to NTSC' under the Output tab. I selected CCE as the encoder. The job ended normally with no errors, but when I play the resulting DVD the image has been flipped both vertically and horizontally. How do I fix that?

[AZBeagle]

Correction to the first post. The video is flipped vertically only, not horizontally. When I play the .M2V file it is upside down. I started VirtualDub because I remembered it had a vertical flip filter. Previewing the filtered output, it makes the result right side up again, but I can only save it as an .AVI, so if I do that I'll be back to where I started...a correct avi (which I still have anyway). I'm afraid that if I run avi2dvd again on the new avi the same thing will happen. So I need to do one of 2 things:

1. Tweak avi2dvd so that checking the PAL to NTSC box doesn't flip the video, or
2. Find a way to use VirtualDub to save the filtered m2v file.

I don't know how to do either, so I'd appreciate the help. Thanks.

[Abond]

I do not use avi2dvd, but I see that it uses avisynth for frameserving. Can you look for and post the avisynth script (*.avs) it uses for encoding?

[AZBeagle]

The problem happened again, only this time it was NOT at PAL to NTSC conversion, it was a straight NTSC avi to NTSC DVD. CCE encoded beautifully, but the m2v file is upside down. Here is the AVSynth script that was generated by AVI2DVD:

# Avisynth Script Made By Avi2Dvd
AviSource("C:\Temp\HP4 Joined.avi", false)
ConvertToYV12()
LanczosResize(720,360,0.0,0.6)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)

I don't speak that language, so can someone please tell me if there is anything in the script that would flip the video vertically? I also need to know if there is a tool I can use to run the m2v file through to flip it vertically again. Then I'd use TMPGenc or something else to mux the flipped video with the audio. I hope I don't have to re-encode. This was a 12-hour job.

Following is the complete AVI2DVD log that was generated, in case the problem might be located elsewhere in the process. One odd thing I notice is that the AVI2DVD process executed a Pulldown, which I thought was only used for framerate conversions (i.e. NTSC-PAL). This job was NTSC to NTSC, so why the pulldown?

Thanks for the help!

[12:46:54 PM] AVI2DVD Started !
[12:47:00 PM] Type mode : Avi Input
[12:47:00 PM] Output : Dvd
[12:47:00 PM] Encoder Selected : CCE
[12:47:00 PM] Video Join ...
[12:49:06 PM] Video Joined successfully! [C:\Temp\HP4 Joined.avi 1463264378 Bytes]
[12:49:07 PM] Start demuxing the AudioStream No.1 ...
[12:52:16 PM] Demuxing of the selected audio finished
successfully !
[C:\Temp\Avi2dvd_temp\Extracted_Audio.ac3 529485824
Bytes]
[12:52:38 PM] Audio extracted renamed successfully !
[C:\Temp\Avi2dvd_temp\Fixed_Audio01.ac3 529485824
Bytes]
[12:52:38 PM] Starts Ac3->Ac3 convertion ...
[12:52:40 PM] Audio converted in Ac3 successfully !
[C:\Temp\Avi2dvd_temp\AudioStream 1 AC3 6CH.ac3
529485824 Bytes]
[12:52:40 PM] Start creating avisynth script ...
[12:52:41 PM] Avisynth script created successfully !
[C:\Temp\Avi2dvd_temp\Avisynth_Script_File.avs 178
Bytes]
[12:52:43 PM] Bitrate used : 3332 Kbpps
[12:52:43 PM] Start video encoding ...
[11:20:22 PM] Video encoded successfully !
[C:\Temp\Avi2dvd_temp\Encoded_Video.m2v
3939629648 Bytes]
[11:20:22 PM] Pulldown of the m2v is starting ...
[11:33:52 PM] M2v pulldowned successfully !
[C:\Temp\AVI2DV~1\Pulldown_Video.m2v 3939629648
Bytes]
[11:33:52 PM] Muxing Video+Audio(s) ...
[11:50:46 PM] M2v muxed successfully !
[C:\Temp\Avi2dvd_temp\Encoded_Video_Muxed.mpg
4568983552 Bytes]
[11:50:49 PM] Zero subtitles found
[11:50:50 PM] Author script generation ...
[11:50:51 PM] Author script generated successfully !
[11:50:51 PM] Start authoring ...
[12:12:51 AM] Dvd authored successfully ! [
C:\Temp\Avi2dvd_temp\DVD ]
[12:12:53 AM] Generating iso ...
[12:21:56 AM] Iso generated successfully ! This is the file
that you must burn -->
[C:\Temp\Avi2dvd_temp\DVD_Image.iso 4570036224
Bytes]
[12:21:56 AM] Job Done !!!

[Abond]

Damned. It seems the script is not correct. To check it open the avs in vdub and look for errors reported. Look if the video is flipped. If there are errors or video is flipped modify the script as follows:
# Avisynth Script Made By Avi2Dvd
AviSource("C:\Temp\HP4 Joined.avi", false)
ConvertToYV12()
LanczosResize(720,360)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)

The figures 0.0,0.6 are for bicubic resize, not for lanczos.
Load the script in vdub again. If this time the video has correct appearance, you need to find a way that avi2dvd uses this script (pause or script edition options I don't know). If it is not correct, this is codec issue, but you can try to correct the script as follows:
# Avisynth Script Made By Avi2Dvd
AviSource("C:\Temp\HP4 Joined.avi", false)
ConvertToYV12()
LanczosResize(720,360)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)
FlipVertical()

Try again in vdub.
About the pulldown - your source is most probably 23.976 fps which is not DVD compliant. You need 29.97 for NTSC DVD. Therefore - pulldown.
And the last - I am afraid you must start over again

[AZBeagle]

Thanks for the information. I tried what you suggested, and opened the script in vdub, and the video looked fine, even though you mentioned that the wrong parameters for lanczos are present. So the problem lies within CCE.

Is there a way to post screen images of my CCE screens in this forum? I tried the alt-Printscreen and pasting but that didn't work for some reason. Couldn't capture any screens from CCE. If not, can you let me know which boxes need to be check/unchecked to ensure the picture is not flipped. There is only one template in my CCE, so I assume AVI2DVD is using that template unless, of course, it is creating its own template, which I can't see.

Thanks!

[Abond]

Before to post a screen there is several things to try.
Load in CCE directly your original script with little modification as follows:
# Avisynth Script Made By Avi2Dvd
AviSource("C:\Temp\HP4 Joined.avi", false)
LanczosResize(720,360,0.0,0.6)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)
Trim(0,1000)
ConvertToYUY2()

Encode 2 pass. It would encode only the first 1001 frames. Look at the output.

Then try:
# Avisynth Script Made By Avi2Dvd
AviSource("C:\Temp\HP4 Joined.avi", false)
LanczosResize(720,360)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)
FlipVertical()
Trim(0,1000)
ConvertToYUY2()

Again look at the output.
I would try to find the correct output from CCE and encode with correct script the entire video. Then I would use an authoring package to multiplex it with the audio already made by avi2dvd.
These errors and unconvenient results are exactly the reason I gave up on all-in-one converters. Initially it looks like they save time, but you see - not in the case.