New rules for play on COLDPLAY cd.

[GullyFoyle]

http://itch.in/journal/bad-bad-coldplay

ad, bad Coldplay

Virgin Records deserves a spanking. I’ll do what I want with the content I pay for, thank you very much. When will they realize that if it’s in bits and bytes, nothing’s ever secure?

Un. *******. Believable. This is India, Virgin. INDIA. Piracy started here, dammit. You can’t play Nazi with India.

Needless to say, Exact Audio Copy ripped this cd just fine – but I’m worried about what would’ve happened if I had Autorun turned on.

But eh, $8.85 isn’t bad. Even for the Mac haters they are.

UPDATE: High resolution closeups for the doubtful:

http://boingboing.net/

Coldplay's new CD comes with an insert that discloses all the rules enforced by the DRM they included on the disc. Of course, these rules are only visible after you've paid for the CD and brought it home, and as the disc's rules say, "Except for manufacturing problems, we do not accept product exchange, return or refund," so if you don't like the rules, that's tough.

What are the other rules? Here are some gems: "This CD can't be burnt onto a CD or hard disc, nor can it be converted to an MP3" and "This CD may not play in DVD players, car stereos, portable players, game players, all PCs and Macintosh PCs." Best of all, the insert explains that this is all "in order for you to enjoy a high quality music experience." Now, that's quality.

I wonder how Coldplay feels about their fans getting all these rules set down for them by the music label? I wonder if most fans who read these rules will be wise enough to blame corporate, or whether they'll just decide to dig up a band whose label treats them like customers, not crooks? It's amazing how the labels always seem to come up with new ways of screwing artists: if they're not cheating them out of royalties, they're systematically alienating their fan-base

Isn't this starting to get a little ridiculous?

[painkiller]

Are these "rules" readable from the outside of the container?

(Meaning, you don't have to have bought, then opened the case to see them?)


Hhmmph. Never mind. Answered my own question.
Sheesh, what a way to tick off consumers......

Coldplay's new CD comes with an insert that discloses all the rules enforced by the DRM they included on the disc. Of course, these rules are only visible after you've paid for the CD and brought it home, and as the disc's rules say, "Except for manufacturing problems, we do not accept product exchange, return or refund," so if you don't like the rules, that's tough.

[celtic_druid]

They don't look like rules. More like an outline of what to expect. It should say on the outside of the case that it is protected and shouldn't have the CD audio logo anywhere, although it looks like it does in the corner.

[somebodeez]

"This CD can't be burnt onto a CD or hard disc, nor can it be converted to an MP3" and "This CD may not play in DVD players, car stereos, portable players, game players, all PCs and Macintosh PCs."

"Except for manufacturing problems, we do not accept product exchange, return or refund"

Sounds like a manufacturing problem to me!

[yoda313]

shouldn't have the CD audio logo anywhere, although it looks like it does in the corner.

Thats just the cd case. Those have it on most cases you buy regardless of content. Its what is printed on the actual disc that matters.

Anyway I know the drm junk is a pain but theres always the analog hole - you can even record to mp3 while the disc is playing if you have a hard time making your own personal, LEGAL backup for personal use.

[danzeb]

"Autoplay" should always be turned off on your computer and don't run any software that might be on the CD if there is any chance that DRM is on the CD. Once software is run you are screwed. You will not be able to make a backup of the CD or make mp3s to play in your mp3 player. You can have your operating system hacked like Sony was doing which is just like having a virus installed on your computer.
Some record companies take a less invasive approach. They just install software on your computer which makes it impossible to copy the CD using Windows or Mac. A DOS copy program may allow you to copy even after the blocking software is installed.

Boycott Coldplay!! There are 100,000 other bands out there that do not try to screw you.

[RottenFoxBreath]

they can spout all the shit they want,but here in the uk,company policy,and shop policy,is buttfucked by common law,like statutory rights,so a refund or exchange is possible.
my copy isnt like that,glad i got mine a while ago tho,wouldnt want to get one like that.
anyhoo,switching autoplay off should be standard,on pc users minds,who knows what is installed when discs are inserted.

[Dv8ted2]

Using tape or a sharpie will also work.

[GullyFoyle]

To me it is about the extreme idiocy the rules reflect.
Just unreal requirements expressed by Virgin.
Can't be played in a DVD player, wtf is that about?

[waheed]

True. Laws in the UK are very strict. Company policies cant do shit and is meanlingless.

The Sales of Goods Act (in UK) states that goods MUST be fit for the purpose they were made for. Hence, if the CD doesn't work in your (whatever player) as a result of the anti-copy protection, you are entitled to a full refund under this Act. The store where you purchased the CD MUST refund you BY LAW.

[somebodeez]

Between the stunt that Sony pulled, what will play on what and what won't, and this - It's just too confusing to try to have to remember who has this kind of garbage on their "CDs" and who doesn't.
Best for me not to buy any CDs at all I guess.

[whitejremiah]

yea, either stop buying music alltogether, or if you must, go the itunes or napster route...at least that way, yes the songs are still DRM'ed but you can buy the cd's at full retail price and burn em to a cd...then rip them to mp3 all you want from there...i know the quality isnt the same but at least they wont be trying to fill your computer up with "legitimate" virii, ect........

[somebodeez]

yea, either stop buying music alltogether, or if you must, go the itunes or napster route...at least that way, yes the songs are still DRM'ed but you can buy the cd's at full retail price and burn em to a cd...then rip them to mp3 all you want from there...i know the quality isnt the same but at least they wont be trying to fill your computer up with "legitimate" virii, ect........

That won't do for me either.
When I put out some $, I expect playability without any limits, no nasty surprises on my PC AND quality.
And I don't want to have to jump through any hoops to do so.

[Noahtuck]

shouldn't have the CD audio logo anywhere, although it looks like it does in the corner.

Thats just the cd case. Those have it on most cases you buy regardless of content. Its what is printed on the actual disc that matters.

Bull hockey!!!
I have alot of cd's that dont have the logo on them.
If you can NOT see the disc itself and the outer case and labels have the compact disc logo on them, they are advertising, stating that it is & selling it as a compact disc. I'm pretty sure it has to be compatible with any product made to play store bought compact disc's and if not they can not sell it as a compact audio disc. Or at the very least they should have to disclose these "Requirements/Limitations" on the outer package.

If you read the paper that is in the photo it states more clearly than what was quoted in the OP, one that is pretty bad is "Some cd players that posses cd-r/rw functions (such as portable players or car stereo')"
What car stereo nowadays CANT play cd-r's
And most of the time in my home, i am playing cd's in my dvd players!

If people start running into these dic's not playing in their systems, you can bet dollars to donuts they will be returing them and when shop's and stores start seeing a problem with the same disc being returned, ouch!!

Just like alot of the stores were seeing problems with sales of disc's that had that damn sony rootkit on them after people found out about it.

Because if i just picked up the latest cd from best buy and it wont work in my truck stereo, or any of my cd or dvd players in my home, i will get a cash refund for sure even though it is open, i might try one replacement tops but i will not waste my time going back and forth just to please the store and their no refund policy for open disc's.

But i'm not a big coldplay fan anyways so :P

[Rich86]

I am happy to say the Coldplay "X&Y" cd I purchased when it first came out was not corrupt in any way, and is fully functional. If there were any warnings on the outside of that cd case, I would not have purchased it. If I opened it and found what you are describing inside, I would return it as defective. If they insisted on giving me another copy of the same cd, I would open it, and immediately return it also as defective - until they got the message that I will not tolerate non-standard, non-functional cd's.
Don't buy this junk - and if you get one by accident - return it immediately.
And - I want no part of downloaded highly compressed audio tracks with built-in drm nonsense. I have plenty of music to listen to already, if the music industry continues to try to abuse and cheat their customers.

[tedkunich]

Are these "rules" readable from the outside of the container?

(Meaning, you don't have to have bought, then opened the case to see them?)


Hhmmph. Never mind. Answered my own question.
Sheesh, what a way to tick off consumers......

Coldplay's new CD comes with an insert that discloses all the rules enforced by the DRM they included on the disc. Of course, these rules are only visible after you've paid for the CD and brought it home, and as the disc's rules say, "Except for manufacturing problems, we do not accept product exchange, return or refund," so if you don't like the rules, that's tough.

Some how I think this is BS... I have this CD and have ripped and converted it with no problems. There is no DRM of any kind on the disc I have in my posession.


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[ROF]

I didn't see these rules in the disc I bought my son for Christmas. Is it only included in some? only in certain geographic locations? In any case, I'm glad to see they at least warn people ahead of time. If you care about the music a sheet of paper that large is quite noticeable and to me would be considered an extra content of which I would have read. The rules are not hard to follow either. The disc I bought plays fine even in my sons computer DVD-ROM.

It's not ridiculous at all. You purchase the CD and a license to play the content. You never own the content of any media you purchase only a license to listen/watch/play it if you follow all guidelines and applicable material (ie. these rules). Your Country, State, or local ordinances may also have rules as to what you can do with material you've purchased. It's illegal to rip CDs that contain DRM in the United States and can be punished by heavy fines or jail time.

[somebodeez]

I didn't see these rules in the disc I bought my son for Christmas. Is it only included in some? only in certain geographic locations? In any case, I'm glad to see they at least warn people ahead of time.

Um...Ahead of time??

Coldplay's new CD comes with an insert that discloses all the rules enforced by the DRM they included on the disc. Of course, these rules are only visible after you've paid for the CD and brought it home

Did I miss something?

[ROF]

Yes, Ahead of time. Before playing the disc a piece of paper that large in quite noticeable and considering how it reads I'm quite sure a 7 year old could understand it.

[Noahtuck]

I didn't see these rules in the disc I bought my son for Christmas.

Well, i was wondering that also but it could be something new that was not implamented before the release of the disc's and is on newer ones being shipped & sold

In any case, I'm glad to see they at least warn people ahead of time. If you care about the music a sheet of paper that large is quite noticeable and to me would be considered an extra content of which I would have read.

now if it's sealed inside a cd case, how the hell are you warned before you buy it and open it to see it and read it ... well..... let's hear this great justification......
Do you work at Best Buy ?? because those idiots have the same reasoning most of the time!!!

It's not ridiculous at all. You purchase the CD and a license to play the content.

And when i purchase one of these and this disc has this little piece of paper in it and it wont play in my vehicle cd player or any one of the 7 players in my home, that is very ridiculous!!!
DUDE!!! Step away from the glass pipe

[somebodeez]

Yes, Ahead of time. Before playing the disc a piece of paper that large in quite noticeable and considering how it reads I'm quite sure a 7 year old could understand it.

I'm still not sure I'm getting you -
To me, ahead of time would mean that I could see that piece of paper before I make a purchase.

[Noahtuck]

Yes, Ahead of time. Before playing the disc a piece of paper that large in quite noticeable and considering how it reads I'm quite sure a 7 year old could understand it.

But that is AFTER you bought it, and most stores have a NO RETURN policy for open cd's, except an exchange for the same title....

once again....

DUDE!!! Step away from the glass pipe

[ROF]

I didn't see these rules in the disc I bought my son for Christmas.

Well, i was wondering that also but it could be something new that was not implamented before the release of the disc's and is on newer ones being shipped & sold

In any case, I'm glad to see they at least warn people ahead of time. If you care about the music a sheet of paper that large is quite noticeable and to me would be considered an extra content of which I would have read.

now if it's sealed inside a cd case, how the hell are you warned before you buy it and open it to see it and read it ... well..... let's hear this great justification......
Do you work at Best Buy ?? because those idiots have the same reasoning most of the time!!!

It's not ridiculous at all. You purchase the CD and a license to play the content.

And when i purchase one of these and this disc has this little piece of paper in it and it wont play in my vehicle cd player or any one of the 7 players in my home, that is very ridiculous!!!

Return it as defective. You can easily show them the rules and state that your equipment is all POS that doesn't seem to play the stuff that everyone else doesn't seem to have a problem with.

[ROF]

Yes, Ahead of time. Before playing the disc a piece of paper that large in quite noticeable and considering how it reads I'm quite sure a 7 year old could understand it.

I'm still not sure I'm getting you -
To me, ahead of time would mean that I could see that piece of paper before I make a purchase.

You can always return it as defective and show them the rules which clearly state that your equipment does not play this material. Looking at the piece of paper it looks like a joke anyways. I'm not the only one to post in this thread who owns the disc and didn't get this sheet of paper. The disc also plays in drives clearly listed as not being able to play it. I say it's a hoax.

[Noahtuck]

Return it as defective. You can easily show them the rules and state that your equipment is all POS that doesn't seem to play the stuff that everyone else doesn't seem to have a problem with.

God are you a DA!!!!!
If i buy something that say's it is a "COMPACT DISC" with the logo, and is supposed to play on any piece of equipment that has that same logo on it, i dont give a rats ass if it's my $600.00 player or my F'n $30.00 walkman!!
It better play perfectly on any player i own just like all my cd's going back 15 years!!
Thats the point!!! it has to be compatible or they can not advertise and sell it as a "COMPACT DISC"...

And how do you know no one else has a problem with it ??
Do you own one of these disc's that came with this warning in it ??
Have you tested this with your infinite wisdom on ever diff. brand of compact disc/dvd player that is in production ??



I should be shot for agreeing with you but,

I say it's a hoax.

I already thought this also, but if it is true, well.....

[ROF]

The outer packaging of most of my CDs does not say or have any compact disc label. The label is usually on the inner case and/or the CD liner note material. Sometimes it appears on the back of the disc, but not always. If it plays in devices specifically listed on the hoax note I'd say it should pretty much be playable in most devices.

If it doesn't play in your device and you do have the note above you have been warned and can return the disc as defective since it doesn't play in your equipment. I've returned CDs, even those I've gotten in the mail without any problems. The only store I ever had an issue with was CompUSA but after speaking to a manager I got my refund for the defective media.

[somebodeez]

Well, maybe it is indeed a hoax.
Considering the way things seem to be going these days though...

[doppletwo]

This happened in India not the USA or UK. CDs are different for different regions and countries.


Did you guys not read the story?

[canadateck]

[RottenFoxBreath]

This happened in India not the USA or UK. CDs are different for different regions and countries.


Did you guys not read the story?

yeh i did read the story,but if it did happen in the uk,i mean,why would they stop at indian editions,its not like the rootkit phenomenon was limited to the US,record comanies are trying to be fly,but there stull dumbasses.
what i commented on was that in the uk,that piece of paper would be used to wipe my ass on for all the legality it contained.