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  1. Член BJ_M's Avatar
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    hmmm == maybe this falls under weird canada news .......


    (PRWEB) - OTTAWA, CANADA (PRWEB) -- A former Canadian Minister of Defence and Deputy Prime Minister under Pierre Trudeau has joined forces with three Non-governmental organizations to ask the Parliament of Canada to hold public hearings on Exopolitics -- relations with “ETs.”

    By “ETs,” Mr. Hellyer and these organizations mean ethical, advanced extraterrestrial civilizations that may now be visiting Earth.

    On September 25, 2005, in a startling speech at the University of Toronto that caught the attention of mainstream newspapers and magazines, Paul Hellyer, Canada’s Defence Minister from 1963-67 under Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Prime Minister Lester Pearson, publicly stated: "UFOs, are as real as the airplanes that fly over your head."

    Mr. Hellyer went on to say, "I'm so concerned about what the consequences might be of starting an intergalactic war, that I just think I had to say something."

    Hellyer revealed, "The secrecy involved in all matters pertaining to the Roswell incident was unparalled. The classification was, from the outset, above top secret, so the vast majority of U.S. officials and politicians, let alone a mere allied minister of defence, were never in-the-loop."

    Hellyer warned, "The United States military are preparing weapons which could be used against the aliens, and they could get us into an intergalactic war without us ever having any warning. He stated, "The Bush administration has finally agreed to let the military build a forward base on the moon, which will put them in a better position to keep track of the goings and comings of the visitors from space, and to shoot at them, if they so decide."

    Hellyer’s speech ended with a standing ovation. He said, "The time has come to lift the veil of secrecy, and let the truth emerge, so there can be a real and informed debate, about one of the most important problems facing our planet today."

    Three Non-governmental organizations took Hellyer’s words to heart, and approached Canada’s Parliament in Ottawa, Canada’s capital, to hold public hearings on a possible ET presence, and what Canada should do. The Canadian Senate, which is an appointed body, has held objective, well-regarded hearings and issued reports on controversial issues such as same-sex marriage and medical marijuana,

    On October 20, 2005, the Institute for Cooperation in Space requested Canadian Senator Colin Kenny, Senator, Chair of The Senate Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence, “schedule public hearings on the Canadian Exopolitics Initiative, so that witnesses such as the Hon. Paul Hellyer, and Canadian-connected high level military-intelligence, NORAD-connected, scientific, and governmental witnesses facilitated by the Disclosure Project and by the Toronto Exopolitics Symposium can present compelling evidence, testimony, and Public Policy recommendations.”

    The Non-governmental organizations seeking Parliament hearings include Canada-based Toronto Exopolitics Symposium, which organized the University of Toronto Symposium at which Mr. Hellyer spoke.

    The Disclosure Project, a U.S.– based organization that has assembled high level military-intelligence witnesses of a possible ET presence, is also one of the organizations seeking Canadian Parliament hearings.

    Vancouver-based Institute for Cooperation in Space (ICIS), whose International Director headed a proposed 1977 Extraterrestrial Communication Study for the White House of former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, who himself has publicly reported a 1969 Close Encounter of the First Kind with a UFO, filed the original request for Canadian Parliament hearings.

    The Canadian Exopolitics Initiative, presented by the organizations to a Senate Committee panel hearing in Winnipeg, Canada, on March 10, 2005, proposes that the Government of Canada undertake a Decade of Contact.

    The proposed Decade of Contact is “a 10-year process of formal, funded public education, scientific research, educational curricula development and implementation, strategic planning, community activity, and public outreach concerning our terrestrial society’s full cultural, political, social, legal, and governmental communication and public interest diplomacy with advanced, ethical Off-Planet cultures now visiting Earth.”

    Canada has a long history of opposing the basing of weapons in Outer Space. On September 22, 2004 Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin declared to the U.N. General Assembly,” "Space is our final frontier. It has always captured our imagination. What a tragedy it would be if space became one big weapons arsenal and the scene of a new arms race.

    Martin stated, "In 1967, the United Nations agreed that weapons of mass
    destruction must not be based in space. The time has come to extend this ban to all weapons..."

    In May, 2003, speaking before the Canadian House of Commons Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs, former Minister of Foreign Affairs of Canada Lloyd Axworthy, stated “Washington's offer to Canada is not an invitation to join America under a protective shield, but it presents a global security doctrine that violates Canadian values on many levels."

    Axworthy concluded, “There should be an uncompromising commitment to preventing the placement of weapons in space.”

    On February 24, 2005, Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin made official Canada's decision not to take part in the U.S government’s Ballistic Missile Defence program.

    Paul Hellyer, who now seeks Canadian Parliament hearings on relations with ETs, on May 15, 2003, stated in Toronto’s Globe & Mail newspaper, “Canada should accept the long-standing invitation of U.S. Congressman Dennis Kucinich of Ohio to launch a conference to seek approval of an international treaty to ban weapons in space. That would be a positive Canadian contribution toward a more peaceful world.”

    In early November 2005, the Canadian Senate wrote ICIS, indicating the Senate Committee could not hold hearings on ETs in 2005, because of their already crowded schedule.

    “That does not deter us,” one spokesperson for the Non-governmental organizations said, “We are going ahead with our request to Prime Minister Paul Martin and the official opposition leaders in the House of Commons now, and we will re-apply with the Senate of Canada in early 2006.

    “Time is on the side of open disclosure that there are ethical Extraterrestrial civilizations visiting Earth,” The spokesperson stated. “Our Canadian government needs to openly address these important issues of the possible deployment of weapons in outer war plans against ethical ET societies.”


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    The very sad part is the creating of weapons in space will not be stopped, due to a billion dollar industry. This industry has way too much money to burn on lobbist and governors.
    BTW I hope those aliens vote in next years Federal election. Better yet I hope one of them runs for office. -garman
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    By “ETs,” Mr. Hellyer and these organizations mean ethical, advanced extraterrestrial civilizations that may now be visiting Earth.
    Mr. Hellyer went on to say, "I'm so concerned about what the consequences might be of starting an intergalactic war, that I just think I had to say something."
    This makes no sense!!!!

    Let's say he is right and ET's are real. The fact they got here means they are way ahead of us in terms of technology and went through their own growth periods.
    If their intent was domination they would have done it already.

    So let's say they are observers.
    Now will they start a fight with a species that just discovered fire or designed their first spear?

    Hugh me powerful now make spear...mighty weapon of mass destruction.

    On an intergalactic scale we're not even that advanced right now. We're like monkeys poking sticks in a termite hill.

    A few more centuries of near space exploration and some basic long distance probes which really go nowhere fast at the speed they travel mean nothing to ET's. Next we send a lifeboat with a few peolple aboard who travel for centuries. Not much of a threat to any species.
    In fact with advances in the speed of travel anything that has left our solar system up to now or the next century would be easily passed by any future expedition. So it's like they were wasted trips. They are just feel good attempts.
    Now if we happen to stumble on some unknown or presently too advanced method of space travel then that could change things but none of us will be around by then to worry about it.
    Any advanced species who watches us grow ad learn already has the counter measures to protect themselves and are themselves still advancing. What makes us think that we would ever catch up with them.

    It's the undiscovered non galactic travellers similarly or less advanced that us who have to worry about us in the future. If we ever get there we'll want to convert them all to our wonderful earthlingness.
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  4. Let's say he is right and ET's are real...
    You don't believe in extra-terrestrial life?
    1f U c4n r34d 7h1s, U r34lly n33d 2 g3t l41d!!!
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    gll99 wrote
    Let's say he is right and ET's are real....
    Originally Posted by MeDiCo_BrUjO
    You don't believe in extra-terrestrial life?
    In the whole as of yet undiscovered and/or unexplored universe, I think it's most probable that there is life including what we call intelligent life somewhere else than on earth. The law of mathematical/statistical probability supports this view.

    The question is are they more advanced visitors near enough for us to offend or so defenceless that they want to start a war because we are blowing ourselves up.
    Heck if they are so smart why not back up their ships a couple of planets away until the job is done. They will be well out of our reach there.
    They have faster than light weapons over 186000 miles per second and what do we have, rockets that take great effort and many minutes just to escape the planet at a super speed 7 miles per second
    Talk about boxing with a sloth. Yawn, yawn, duck ever so slowly

    I'm skeptical of that scenario.
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  6. 1f U c4n r34d 7h1s, U r34lly n33d 2 g3t l41d!!!
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    What they looked like



    What I taught them

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