DVD-R DL not able to burn in Pioneer 109?

[xnofriendsx]

Just sort of curious as to why i am having this problem.
As of right now i can't use DVD-R DL media (Verbatim) in my Pioneer 109 drive.
I just bought 9 new discs and they are all not working.
So...
Can the Pioneer 109 not accept DVD-R DL discs?

I just recently bought the DVD-R DL discs, and i have successfully used DVD+R DL discs fine.

Is there a difference between the - and + media for this burner?

It leaves me to believe that it is the -R DL media that is not accepted because i have burned plenty of +R DL media.

I thought maybe it was DVD Studio Pro at first, but then Toast 6 doesn't work as well.
It has to be the drive.
The drive does a few chugs, then gives me an error.
Here is the error....

Plain DVD-R (4.7gb) Media works fine.

Any suggestions?
Just wasted $50 on media if the drive doesnt support DVD-R DL media.

[londor]

The 109 does not support DVD-R DL.

DVR-109 specs

[blobb]

DVD-R 4.7GB, DVD-RW, DVD+R (single & double layer), DVD+RW
londor it support both single and duallayer

[londor]

DVD-R 4.7GB, DVD-RW, DVD+R (single & double layer), DVD+RW
londor it support both single and duallayer

It supports DVD+R DL but not DVD-R DL. You need the 110 to get support for the - format.

[JoachimS]

Incorrect.

The initial release (and specification) did not support DVD-R DL. Firmware Version 1.58 surely does. Please update your firmware.

http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/ibs/device_e/dev00002r_e.html#f_109

I am also not sure that TOAST 6 supports DL, TOAST 7 does.

Cheers,

Joachim

[xnofriendsx]

I am on a mac, how do i update the firmware.
Everytime i see a firmware update, it is a .exe file for PC.
Thanks for the info.

[xnofriendsx]

Do i have to bring my drive over to a PC, then use the .exe file and then update the firmware. Then bring it back over to my G5 and then it will work?
Once again, thanks for all the help.

[xnofriendsx]

sorry for another question...
How do i check what version of firmware i have on my G5.
I opened System Profiler, but don't see any Version for firmware for my drive.
Just...
Firmware Revision: A912
Nothing about 1.58 which seems to be the one i need.

[xnofriendsx]

BTW, Toast 6 and Toast 7 both support DL discs. Well at least Toast 6.07 which i have.
I mainly use DVD Studio Pro though to burn them cause I am not sure if Toast does the layer break correctly.

[londor]

I am on a mac, how do i update the firmware.
Everytime i see a firmware update, it is a .exe file for PC.
Thanks for the info.

Use DVRFlash.

[JoachimS]

You may use a patched Logitec updater.

http://joachim.macbay.de/MacNews%20Forum/DVR109_FW158EU_MAC.zip

[From a Buick 8]

When i look in system profiler i am able to see what firmware i have (see below). The revision is the firmware. You can also check out this page for firmware flashers for your drive.

http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/action.lasso?-database=faq.fp3&-layout=FaqList&-response...=34254&-search

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109:

Manufacturer: PIONEER
Model: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109
Revision: 1.55
Drive Type: CD-RW/DVD-RW
Disc Burning: Vendor Supported
Removable Media: Yes
Detachable Drive: No
Protocol: ATAPI
Unit Number: 0
Socket Type: Internal

[xnofriendsx]

Thanks for all the help.
I ended up searching some stuff on xlr8yourmac.com and found some way to use the Terminal to extract the .exe files to get the firmware updates.
Then i used Terminal again to load up DVRFlash and flash it.
Works great now.
And my System Profiler now says 1.58 instead of A912 or something.
Thanks.