Merging bin files

[trigger39]

Hi guys have searched extensively and haven't found the answer to this one so any help would be greatly appreciated.

I have a video file which has extracted to 2 bin and 2 cue files...i know how to burn a single cue file but was wondering if anyone knows how i join this movie together before burning, or do i have to burn both files separately.

Someone suggested nero recode, but it won't let me import either the bin OR cue files

Thanks in advance guys [/i]

[waheed]

Use daemon tools. mount both images and simply copy across the video files to a single folder. Join the files together and burn.

[trigger39]

Cheers for the help mate...i have daemon tools but am not quite sure how to use it, could you be a bit more specific?

[mats.hogberg]

It simply lets you use the bin/cue as if it was a regular CD.

/Mats

[trigger39]

yes mate i get that bit...it's the joining of the files i'm struggling with!

[mats.hogberg]

What kind of files is in the bin's? That's what decides how to go on and join the two. Also, what do you want to end up with? Just a joined file, or a DVD or what?

/Mats

[trigger39]

Just wanna join it together so i can burn it to dvd or cdr

[waheed]

Need to be more specific. What format are the video files in, dvd, vcd, mpeg, avi, divx, xvid, etc..

[jimmalenko]

See advice here:

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1372304#1372304


Basically the same thing.

[mats.hogberg]

Let me polish my crystal ball here:
You've downloaded a movie, and got it as 2 bin/cue pairs.
Here the picture is a little hazy but
It might be in VCD or SVCD format - in which case I suggest you take a look at SVCD2DVD (for DVD creation) or just burn each cue/bin to a CD and you're done.
Or, it's in some AVI format (why it should be "packaged" in a BIN is beyond me in this case, but it could be) - then just encode each AVI to DVD specs mpg, author with TMPGEnc DVD Author.

/Mats

[edsmith77]

mats,
I know this is a bit dated but just yesterday, I was asked to put a bin/cue pair to disc.
After reading many posts on this topic it seems as though everyone wants to disassemble the bin/cue into its mpeg parts then reauthor into appropriate VCD/SVCD/DVD.
Now here is where I get confused and I am the first to admit it, I do not work with bin/cue files but presume that they are just different wrappers or containers for image or video data. Back to the case at hand, I am led to believe that the data within the bin/cue is a VCD type video. I know I could just burn the bin/cue to a CD and see if it would play and thusly, answer my own question. However, that would still leave me with the question of why would it not play. Is it because the players do not know how to play bin/cue or was bin/cue used just to transport the data around and unpacking and rearranging is still required.

Thanks,
Ed

[Abond]

Refering to the bin/cue as "CD image file" these are one appropriate method to get the burning application to burn the .bin right with the settings in .cue. About the playing - the problem is that one can have everything in the .bin file. With everything I mean even plain text data - so you don't expect from the player to play Word .doc files, do you?

[mats.hogberg]

I am led to believe that the data within the bin/cue is a VCD type video.
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However, that would still leave me with the question of why would it not play. Is it because the players do not know how to play bin/cue or was bin/cue

If your assumption is correct, and the disc won't play, it's either a badly/wrongly authored VCD or the player doesn't play VCD. In between these options there's a grey area of how up to standard the VCD is, and how strongly the player requires full standard compliance.
My first bout with VCD was using Nero, and my player refused to play them. Solved by authoring with VCDEasy, but to the naked eye, there was no difference between Nero VCD and VCDEasy VCD, but Nero did something "non standard" when authoring that my player picked up, and refused to deal with.
The player wont know the disc it's playing is burned from a cue/bin or anything - all it sees is 0 and 1 on the surface of the disc. Take my beloved bucket analogy. A cue/bin (or ISO or IMG or .nrg or...) is just a bucket. You can put anything in a bucket - water, wine, coal, toads & c . When you take the content out of the bucket, there's no way to tell what it came in.

/Mats

[edsmith77]

Mats and Abond.
Thanks for the insight. I do believe I do understand about the "bucket" theory and that it could contain anything. And that would make sense to me and probably why everyone says to go back to the mpeg file then reauthor. That way there is no doubt.
If you would be so kind as to consider one more question and it probably falls into the "are you really that dumb" category. But, here goes anyway.
If the bin/cue file is as you say just a wrapper for anything, and one was to burn them (bin/cue) as "data" files. I presume then the player (and for arguments sake, does play VCDs), then would it necessarily recognize the disk as a video disk or just another plain ol data disk. In which case, it would seem that it would not play.
However, on the other hand if one were to burn them to disk as a video disk, then the player logically should recognize the disk as a video and try to play. But if the bin file has something other than video inside then, of course it would not play. Hmmmm.
Would this make any difference if it were DVD vs CD? Aside from the obvious fact that the video is MPEG1 vs MPEG2 (for DVD compliance) neglectiing the audio for the time.

Now down to brass tacks. The bin/cue will not fit on a regular CD (its about 900Mb). Which really says it has to go on to a DVD. But, thinking outloud, the VCD is not MPEG2 and would have to be converted anyway. Wellllllll, I think I just answered my own questions.
Thanks for the sounding board.

Ed

[mats.hogberg]

Hmm... Let me see - if you burn a cue and bin to a CD-R as data, you'll still just have a cue and a bin, but on a CD instead of on the HDD. It will be recognized as a data disc by any player, and wont play as video.
Most writer apps have a special cue/bin or iso or (any other "bucket" format) write mode, where it just takes the data INSIDE the bin/iso/... and writes it to the disc. If it's a video CD or data CD or audio CD that will be written has already been decided when the ISO or cue/bin or... was made.

900 MB cue/bin sounds a little too much, but could still work on a 700 MB (80 min) CD-r (it's not a 1:1 relationship between cd image size and what is actually written to the disc). Try! Surely, a 90 min will suffice no problem.

Also, mpeg 1 is in fact DVD compliant too, under some circumstances. (See WHAT IS top left)

/Mats