Sync-problems in Vegas 4.0e

[mobobo]

I keep experince at lot of sync-problem in my editingprogram (Vegas 4.0e) but I don't know where the actual problem lies? I'm surposed to edit a recording of a theaterplay for a friend of mine and he gave me 3 different recordings on a DVD..."Video_TS"-format (I think it's called Vob-files, right?) I tried to open the vob-files in Vegas directly from the VIDEO_TS-folder but there were no audiotrack. Then I tried to rip the recordings using #1 DVD Ripper making the files into avi (DivX codec 5.2.1). (Later on I was told that it would be better to make DV avi files if it's going to be edited, but I don't know how that's done?).
So I ended up with 3 Avi(DivX) files, but when I opend them in Vegas the picture and audio are out of sync on one or more of the files (it varies how many and whitch ones???Very strange!) If I correct the sync and render the files (MPEG2) then the resultes are out of sync when I open it(WINDVD). ARRRG! I'v made sure the check the audio frequence: The files are 44.100 Hz and the project-properties setting in Vegas are set to the same.
I'v tried to open the 3 files in Movie Maker and they seems to be in sync there. So...
Is it Vegas that causes the problems? (Would it help if I upgradet to Vegas 6.0b?)
Is it a Codec-problem?
Is it the files....? should I try to make them into DV avi? How?
Or...mayby someone could recommend a freeware editing program (or a tryout) that I could try.(I'v tried Adobe Premiere but it was a LOT slower than Vegas. ..mayby it's my computer?)
I just need to do some very basic editing, but Movie Maker just isn't enough? Please help. Thank you.

[guns1inger]

You could try the Vegas 6 demo and see if you fair better.

I believe that with virtualdubmpeg and the panasonic codec you should be able to produce DV-avi output. Expect much larger files than your current divx versions though.

[BJ_M]

divx is not for editing ... and that is the source of your problems (the conversion to divx) .. plus you prob. used VBR mp3 audio (bad news) , also you converted the native dvd audio 48khz to 44.1khz was also a big mistake..


Why dont you use the original recordings / tapes ?

If you install the demo of Sony Movie Studio , you should be able to read the audio AC3 right off the dvd's in vegas 4 ... as vegas can now read ac3 multiplexed in a VOB..

[BJ_M]

Vegas will also read AC3 multiplexed into a program stream

[mobobo]

Thanks a lot . But I don't know what BJ_M meens by "Vegas will also read AC3 multiplexed into a program stream"?. I can't seem to find "Sony movie Studio" anywere. I'v downloadet the Virtualdub-MPEG 1.6.10 but I don't know how to to use it "with the panasonic codec?" to produce a DV avi? Sorry but i'm just a newbie.
Could you explaine it in a "...for dummies"-way or mayby explaine where to find the relevant programs and codecs?

[BJ_M]

http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/download/Step2.asp?DID=613


https://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=Panasonic_DV_Codec

[BJ_M]

https://www.videohelp.com/glossary?P#Program%20Stream

[mobobo]

Ok. I'v tried to convert a small sample(a vob-file) with virtualdubmpeg and it worked fine! Except that the preview had stripes(interlace? I tried to change the fieldorder (A, B progressiv), but no luck) Nevermind...the stripes didn't show up on the final DV-file. Hurrey! Now I just hope that when I try with a larger sample that the audio and picture are still sync. Thank you guns1inger

Still it would be nice to be able to open the vob-files directly in my Vegas 4.0.
Question to BJ_M. If I download and install "Vegas® Movie Studio™+DVD 6.0" (=the link you gave me) I should be able to open the vobfiles in my Vegas 4.0e??? Just dobblechecking before I start downloading for a LONG time (I have a slow internet connection)

[mobobo]

I found this guide https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=261416 and it worked just like I hoped! Thanks to all for your help!

[BJ_M]

that guide is good =- but a waste of time as now that vegas supports direct VOB reading and ac3 file import ..

[thefiddler]

You've got to be kidding me!!! Movie Studio supports native VOB editing, but Vegas 6 does not!!!

This is a frickin' joke, Sony's screwing us!

[BJ_M]

as i said -- Vegas also supports the IMPORT of VOBs, mpeg2 and 5.1 or 2ch ac3 (muxed in a stream (program, Ts or VOB) ...

please read above posts on how to activate it ...

[thefiddler]

So if I install the demo of Movie Studio, it will enable vob editing in Vegas 6? Is that what's alluded to in the above posts? If so, do I have to leave Movie Studio installed or what's the deal? I really don't want it on my system, but it might be worth it if I can edit VOB's in Vegas 6.

[BJ_M]

you can then remove it (the demo) , i am fairly sure ..

[thefiddler]

Wow! where to you get this info?

dling now...

EDIT: thanks a lot for the info... it worked like a charm. I've been wanting to check out movie studio for a while, so I'm not going to uninstall right now. Probably soon though.