How much can I fit on 1 DVD with Good Quality.

[Ultra_Immortal]

I see on E Bay.
People are seeling Anime DVDs of Naruto and Full Metal Alchemist.
They manage to fit about 10 if not more Episodes on each Disc.
And they say it is Good Quality.

Now I have made DVDs before with DVDA 3 and fit about 9 Episodes of Anime.
And the quaility is Good, but when lots of things happen on the Screen at once, the quality is very Bad.

Now I use .avi and let DVDA 3 Encode it to DVD.
Is there a better way of Encoding the Anime, so it looks better?

Thanks.

[thecoalman]

Are you using a lower resolution? Low bitrates require lower resolutions.

[Ultra_Immortal]

I am using a High Resolution.
But if I use a Low Resolution, will it look better than if I use a High Resolution. I am encoding at about 2000 Bitrate.

[freebird73717]

If you use a lower resolution like 352x240 for ntsc or 352x288 for pal you will be able to use lower bitrates and fit more video. With a bitrate of 2000 I would personally use 352x480 ntsc or 352x576 pal.

[thecoalman]

I am using a High Resolution.
But if I use a Low Resolution, will it look better than if I use a High Resolution. I am encoding at about 2000 Bitrate.

Once you go below 4000 the quality of full frame begins to rapidly decrease. Especially during high motion scenes.

There's a graph at the bottom of this page you can go by: http://www.digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/capture/intro.htm

[Ultra_Immortal]

If I am encoding Anime, will the Quality look good at 352x240.

[thecoalman]

If I am encoding Anime, will the Quality look good at 352x240.

I don't know what it will look like but if you want to use a lower bitrate like 2000 you have to use a lower resolution. There's really no choice in the matter. You can try 353x480 as well, look to the left under "what is" DVD for the the different resolutions.

[Ultra_Immortal]

OK, I will.
Thanks everyone who helped me.

[manono]

Those E-Bay bootlegs are on DVD9s, so they're working with a lot higher capacity than you are with your DVD5s. Which doesn't mean they have the same quality as the official versions.

That graph is pure nonsense. Maybe for 29.97fps encoded interlaced frames of some nasty noisy captures, it makes some sense, but for 23.976fps DVD backups, that bitrate guide serves no purpose but to waste DVD-Rs. 7000 is recommended for high quality? 4500 is barely watchable? 3000 is a miserable viewing experience? Give me a break. I have a good TV and know how to tell a quality encode.

[laspis59]

"How much can I fit on 1 DVD with Good Quality"

2 hours max

[thecoalman]

3000 is a miserable viewing experience? Give me a break.

Yes if your encoding at full frame.......... Lower resolution produces some decent quality at that bitrate. Using a VHS source for exampple encoded @3500-4000 using 352x480 is nearly indistinguishable from the same video @8000 720x480. If you'd like I'd be happy to provide some examples. You need to consider the source of your material, if it's not that good lowere resolutipons and bitrates work just as well.

[manono]

Hi-

That guide recommends a 7000 bitrate for 720x480. There are relatively few commercial DVDs where the video bitrate even approaches 7000. Many are in the 4500 range, which that guide claims is barely watchable. And good companies, not the fly-by-night outfits, put out these DVDs. That guide seems to be mostly for relatively lo-res captures, not good HDTV caps, and certainly not DVD backups.

In my opinion, the surest way to insure lousy results is to use half resolution. I know, it's recommended at this site every day when bitrate is scarce, but no matter how many bits you throw at a half res encode, it's always going to look smoothed and blurry.

Why are you talking about a VHS source? The OP was asking about DVD backups, and a VHS source is garbage to begin with. Of course there's no point in raising the res on something like that. You can throw all the bits at it that you want, and it's still going to look like crap.

I've done a bunch of long movies, or somewhat shorter movies along with some DVD extras, where the bitrate averaged around 3000. With a good encoder, full VBR encoding, and knowledge of matrices, they look just fine at full 720x480. I'd much rather use a lower bitrate matrix for a 2-3000 bitrate encode, perhaps combined with some judicious filtering, than take the resolution down. Difference of philosophy, I guess. To each his own.