I'll give Rugby one thing over football...

[shelbyGT]

The hits, without pads:

http://shelbygt.spymac.net/rugbyhits.wmv

[Cobra]

Too true. I've nacked a knee and my spine playing that game, and that was before I was 18. Great fun!

[spiderman2k1]

America football they hit allot harder. No to say these guys do not get hit. But who want a 350LB line backer coming to kill you.

[Hardcoreruss]

But you are covered in pads?!?!?, rather hit by that than a 300lber with none.

Whats that music from on the vid, I recognise it.

[ViRaL1]

Have you met Jack Tatum?

[shelbyGT]

Whats that music from on the vid, I recognise it.

Bodyjar - "Not the Same"

[VCDHunter]

But you are covered in pads?!?!?, rather hit by that than a 300lber with none.

More protection than a Knight Of The Realm and they still swear blind they're tougher

[shelbyGT]

I'll take an NFL offensive line against a rugby team any day.

[rhegedus]

Some Welsh hospitality for our English guests...........

Henson vs Tait

Some more for Wales fans:

Welsh rugby

Shane Williams

Gareth Edwards vs New Zealand

Scott Gibbs vs England

Gareth Edwards vs Scotland

Ieuan Evans vs England

Enjoy

[EddyH]

I'll happily watch rugby but not play it (played enough for a lifetime at school)

i think that says it all
it's like 13 (or 15) a side all-in boxing

[VCDHunter]

Some Welsh hospitality for our English guests...........

Henson vs Tait

Some more for Wales fans:

Welsh rugby

Shane Williams

Gareth Edwards vs New Zealand

Scott Gibbs vs England

Gareth Edwards vs Scotland

Ieuan Evans vs England

Enjoy

Keep em coming fella - you don't have the Scott Gibbs v Os Du Randt clip do you ?

[rhegedus]

Ain't got a clip I'm affraid............. I'll see what I can dredge up over the weekend.

[erdons]

When you put on the pads you will know that those pads dont do a dam thing for you when you get cracked. Believe me pads or no pads it hurts.

[thecoalman]

Impressive but we get airborn. :P


http://www.czabe.com/audioclips/Hitz.WMV

[bugster]

Great work both Shelby and thecolaman, cool vids, excellent

Perhaps some one can help me here. I think I know the rules regarding tackling in Rugby Union, perhaps some one can point out the differences between Rugby and American Football.

Roughly, in Rugby Union, for a Tackle to be legal it must meet the following:

You can only tackle a player if he is holding the ball !
A tackler must attempt to hold the person, so you can't simply shoulder charge. you must attempt to put your arms around or otherwise hold on to them.
You cannot tackle a player whilst he is in the air (dangerous play).
Once tackled to the floor, you must release immediatley.
You cannot tackle a player above the shoulders, even if he ducks!(dangerous play)
You cannot trip a player with your foot, tackles must be made with the hands/arms.

There must be more, but how does this vary from American football?

[rhegedus]

A tackler must attempt to hold the person, so you can't simply shoulder charge. you must attempt to put your arms around or otherwise hold on to them.

Not sure about this one - I've seen plenty of people charged into touch without attempt to hold on to them.

[bugster]

A tackler must attempt to hold the person, so you can't simply shoulder charge. you must attempt to put your arms around or otherwise hold on to them.

Not sure about this one - I've seen plenty of people charged into touch without attempt to hold on to them.

That doesn't make it legal!

You CAN push with a straight arm. Thats not a tackle though.
Shoulder barging or diving at someone head first is an absolute no-no. If blatant enough it can get you a yellow card, or even red in some circumstances!

[rhegedus]

A tackler must attempt to hold the person, so you can't simply shoulder charge. you must attempt to put your arms around or otherwise hold on to them.

Not sure about this one - I've seen plenty of people charged into touch without attempt to hold on to them.

That doesn't make it legal!

You CAN push with a straight arm. Thats not a tackle though.
Shoulder barging or diving at someone head first is an absolute no-no. If blatant enough it can get you a yellow card, or even red in some circumstances!

You guys play soft over the border

[thecoalman]

In American football you can only "tackle" the guy with the football. It basically comes down to kill the guy with the football, there's very few rules governing how, one of the few would be you can't spear him with a your helmet.

There is plenty of other contact between other players though, most head to head contact is legal The lineman are constantly battling. The defensive lineman are generally attempting to get to the quarterback who is the guy with initial possesion of the ball. The offensive lineman are trying to block them, one rule govering the offensive lineman is they can't hold anyone. In other words they can't grab onto anyone, they can push and shove all they want. Considering most of them are well over 300 pounds.... well you get the picture. If there not blocking for the quarteback they may be blocking for a running back, essentially trying to clear a path for him.

[bugster]

Ahh, OK. SO all that bashing that goes on at the start of a play is not 'tackling' but 'blocking'!

[shelbyGT]

blocking, screening, pushing... yeah, lots of that.

[thecoalman]

Ahh, OK. SO all that bashing that goes on at the start of a play is not 'tackling' but 'blocking'!

Basically yes, you have 4 humongous guys trying to get to the quarterback with the football at the start of the play. Depending on the play it developes from there. If he's trying to pass they continue to pursue him and the four defending the him continue to defend. Most quartebacks don't have the ball for more than a few seconds during a pass play.

Here's the monsters from that other thread..... :P I really don't think it matters if you have pads on or not if one of theses guys hits you head on full force.

The old American football Vs. Rugby (and other similar forms) argument. Respectively neither teams could compete in each other sports simply because they wouldn't have the personnel. I often here the kevlar argument but let's examine some pics..... :P

Our first piece of evidence to be entered is this pic, this man is 6 ft. 5in. and weighs 270+, pretty big huh? That would be the smaller guy in the red jersey , the larger gentleman to his right 6 ft. 7in. and well over 350lbs.



Onto pic 2, Similar comparison, the guy in the green jersey is 6 foot seven and 340+. By comparison I would suggest this guys arm is as some of your rugby players legs and probably nearly as long. :P Don't let the large sizes fool you, they are extremely fast and agile otherwise they wouldn't be playing in the NFL.




These are NFL lineman, average body size is 6 foot 4 inches 300+ and there's four of them on both sides during most plays. Now you want to go running into that with all 225 lbbs of your average running back without body armor go right ahead. I'll keep the ambulance waiting. BTW one of the reasons they wear padding is because at the turn of the century there was many deaths playing American football, not broken legs or arms but dead.