Anyone hear about DVDSP HD version?

[dcsos]

I heard DVDSP has a HI-DEF version.
If you know whether it burns HI-DEF to a regular DVD or DUAL LAYER only?
or? Does it work with an EXTERNAL FIREWIRE BluRay disc?

Any News on what they had at the MACWORLD earlier this year?


And does anyone know if the new Apples will finally debut 2button mice?

[AntnyMD]

Did you read http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/ ?

[hovispresley]

Part of the system req. is if you are producing hd stuff you need a dvd tape to burn it to ? or something like that.

Are there any HD dvd players yet ? that you can HD play stuff on.

Never mind about a 2 button mouse, I spent 2 grand on a g5 and never got a mouse mat !

DLT drive for transporting projects on tape to a replicator (recommended for DVD-9 projects)

Playback of DVD Studio Pro 4-authored HD DVDs requires a G5 processor, Mac OS X v10.4 and Apple DVD Player 4.6 or later

[dcsos]

Thanks Antony
The link brought me to the important detail!
That no one allows you to burn a HD DVD yet!
LOOK: HVDVD_TS to hard drive --ONLY!


Output Formats: DVD STUDIO PRO 4.0 HiDef
DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, Double-layer media
Double-layer media support
DLT drive (required for DVD-9 projects)
DDP 2.0 and 2.1
CMF 1.0
Disk Image
Video_TS to hard drive
HVDVD_TS to hard drive

[AntnyMD]

HVDVD_TS to hard drive

My guess is Toast will step in and provide for burning your high definition projects built in DVDSP4. As there are no settops available yet (well, here in North America), the topic is moot for the moment.

[MikieV]

The Upgrade Guide page for DVD SP4 states:

H.264 HD DVD support

The ultra-efficient, next-generation video compression technology, H.264 provides outstanding HD quality at lower SD bit rates. DVD Studio Pro 4 integrates scalable H.264 encoding, so you can burn feature-length HD titles using existing drives with existing media and play them back using the Apple DVD player.

So, you can only watch the H.264-encoded HD on a Mac running Tiger & QT7 - until standalone players support that format - if ever - since the trend is toward "true" HD format on HD-DVD or Blu-ray.

A feature with seemingly limited usefulness, but - for those who do find it useful - a way to get HD on a DVD now, without buying new (and currently all but non-existent) HD burners and players.

[AntnyMD]

So, you can only watch the H.264-encoded HD on a Mac running Tiger & QT7 - until standalone players support that format - if ever - since the trend is toward "true" HD format on HD-DVD or Blu-ray..

The codec doesnt determine high def .. its the resolution. You can make a high definition encode using any QuickTime codec now .. it just wouldnt look as good as high bitrate MPEG-2 or the new H.264 MPEG-4.

[chikanakan]

Toast 6.0.9 already supports this and for much less. If you just want HD on an SD DVD, then Toast will work fine. Since HD-DVD burners do not exist yet, and BlueRay are for Data only HD support is pretty much worthless on the Mac.

Also, DVDSP 4 requires 10.4.1 and DVD Player 4.6, both of which are not yet released.

HD-DVD and BlueRay will have problems on the Mac until Apple supports UDF 2.5 or 2.6 which will be the native format for the disc.

Also, Apple is only writing HD-DVD Video_TS for 0.9 spec. That means that something created now will not meet the final spec and may not even work when players are released.

Seems like they are jumping the gun a little just to get HD on an SD video.

[Case]

So, you can only watch the H.264-encoded HD on a Mac running Tiger & QT7 - until standalone players support that format - if ever - since the trend is toward "true" HD format on HD-DVD or Blu-ray.

If ever? Not really:
Both of the major candidate next-generation DVD rival formats planned for product deployment in late 2005 include the H.264/AVC High Profile as a mandatory player feature — specifically:
- The HD-DVD format of the DVD Forum
- The Blu-ray Disc format of the Blu-Ray Disc Association (BDA)

[DanSlagle]

Seems like they are jumping the gun a little just to get HD on an SD video.

Maybe... maybe not...

"DVD Studio Pro 4 will be demonstrated at NAB with a prototype consumer HD DVD player from Toshiba set to debut later this year."

From Creative Cow

[DanSlagle]

Also Blu-Ray and HD-DVD may converge

[willrob]

IF one had a video card with S-Video out (the kind of card some of us will need to get anyway to support Tiger's Core Image), then the DVD Player's playback can be sent to a TV...with aminor loss of quality.

>>So, you can only watch the H.264-encoded HD on a Mac running Tiger & QT7 - until standalone players support that format - if ever - since the trend is toward "true" HD format on HD-DVD or Blu-ray.<<

[DanSlagle]

IF one had a video card with S-Video out (the kind of card some of us will need to get anyway to support Tiger's Core Image), then the DVD Player's playback can be sent to a TV...with aminor loss of quality.

>>So, you can only watch the H.264-encoded HD on a Mac running Tiger & QT7 - until standalone players support that format - if ever - since the trend is toward "true" HD format on HD-DVD or Blu-ray.<<

I am all for just avoiding the write to DVD entirely. Just wireless put the HD content to the HD player next to the TV.
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000860026257/

Watch it a few times then, if you think you might want to keep it, burn it.

[chikanakan]

Seems like they are jumping the gun a little just to get HD on an SD video.

Maybe... maybe not...

"DVD Studio Pro 4 will be demonstrated at NAB with a prototype consumer HD DVD player from Toshiba set to debut later this year."

From Creative Cow

Well, a Consumer Player is great and all, but it doesn't mean much until there are burners and media. BlueRay has had settop players and recorders for some time now.

Even if HD-DVD recorders are released buy the end of 05, Apple is always slow to support burning to new media, and again the UDF 2.5 requirement is going to cause them problems. Look how long it took for DVD+R/RW and DVD+R DL. Any they still haven't added support for DVD-R DL even though the drives are shipping from Pioneer a couple months ago.

Doesn't anyone think it's odd that Apple is part of the Blue Ray Association, but are supporting HD-DVD first?

In any case, this was a pretty lame release for Apple in my opinion.

[pants]

i think the hd dvd aspect is more along the line of release like the funk brothers dvd

http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/standinginshadowsmotown.php

and i think the one of the t2 dvd's that basic are dvd-rom titles for computer playback that include hd version of the movie. but these titles above were wmv9 versions. even though they are saying hd-dvd's, it doesn't seem yet that it's really related to the format called "HD-DVD".

[MikieV]

So, you can only watch the H.264-encoded HD on a Mac running Tiger & QT7 - until standalone players support that format - if ever - since the trend is toward "true" HD format on HD-DVD or Blu-ray.

If ever? Not really:
Both of the major candidate next-generation DVD rival formats planned for product deployment in late 2005 include the H.264/AVC High Profile as a mandatory player feature — specifically:
- The HD-DVD format of the DVD Forum
- The Blu-ray Disc format of the Blu-Ray Disc Association (BDA)

The players will support H.264/AVC on blue-laser media/formats, but will they recognize the data structure/format Apple uses on the red-laser DVD-R?

Since I don't see that being high on anyone's list - while the blue-laser formats may, or may not, be converging - I'm still pessimistic enough to stick to "if ever".