Making a DVD with pieces of other DVDs?

[bigscaryrobot]

Hello,

I’m calling all experts on this one. That means you reboot. Here’s what I want to do. I’m new to DVD-R, so speak to me like you would a child. I want to make a demo DVD with pieces of other DVDs.

1. I don’t want whole chapters. I want to be able to extract like 3min of a scene.

2. The Scene must be able to keep it’s sound (i.e. DTS, DD EX, etc). So, if one clip is DTS and the next clip is DD, then it should be able to switch from DTS to DD without me having to go the DVD menu.

3. I want to be able to fade in/fade out between scenes.

4. I want the sound to fade in/out as well, if possible.

5. I want to cut all the scenes together on one DVD that I can use for a demo.

I have no idea where to even start. Any help would wonderful!

Thanks again
-BSR

[Epicurus8a]

Wow! It seems like you're asking a lot. Right off the bat I'd say you'll have to convert the audio to a common format - probably LCPM (uncompressed) - so you can make cross fades.

Womble MPEG VIDEO WIZARD is the answer. MVW can also handle the transitions (provided all of the audio is the same format). The output file will be MPEG2 which can easily authored to DVD. (MVW offers a 30 day free trial.) This would require you to make one pass (per file) to convert the audio to LCPM, and then a second pass to assemble your project and add the transitions.

I'll be watching this thread closely in case anyone has other ideas.

<edit> If there are multiple sound tracks, then it's back to square one.

[guns1inger]

You cannot go from DTS to DD automatically. They have to be on seperate tracks if all titles are in the one VTS, and you can't switch tracks on the fly.

Your choices are to have either a common audio format, as suggested previously, or create an AC3 title and a DTS title, and switch back and forth between them. You might be able to prgram a menu to go in between them that auto plays the title, to fake auto switching.

[proxyx99]

By using a "trim" option in left preview window of MPEG Video Wizard you can cut clips and save them without reencoding in VOB format for direct import in DVD authoring software (including original audio in AC3 etc.).

[bigscaryrobot]

If I dont use fades and dont connect the videos together can I keep just the DTS track and then just the DD EX track? Can I burn multible videots files that will play one after the other on a DVD with each one containing the track of my choosing (ie DTS, DD EX)?

[reboot]

Any good NLE to extract the clips you want.
DVDLab Pro (for multiple VTS), so you can import the clips, even if they're different sizes/audio/whatever.
Add motion menu's between clips, for fadein/out effect.
Set a Play All Button

[bigscaryrobot]

reboot, I have no idea what you just said, but I'm glad you're here.

Can you tell first how I locate what VOB the trailers are in. When i view a trailer on a DVD or a scene, I have no idea how to find them when I use DVDdecrypter or smartripper.

Thanks
-BSR

[reboot]

Rip the entire bunch of vob's to mpeg.
Browse the mpeg with something like Cuttermaran, or Womble, or tmpgenc mpeg editor.
Cut the clip(s) you want.
Open DVDLab Pro.
Import all your clips.
Drop the first one into Movie 1.
Right click in the Project window, add VTS.
Add one VTS for each clip.
Drop each clip into each VTS.
Set up your linking the way you want it, including the playall.
Add transition effects (fade in/out) between clips.
Compile and burn.

[bigscaryrobot]

Will doing the above keep the sound streams? How will I specify that I want to keep the DTS instead of the regular Dolby Digital? Or am I just not understanding?

-BSR

[reboot]

Keeping the sound stream you want is dependant on the tools used to rip and cut the mpeg, and has nothing to do with dvdlab.

[bigscaryrobot]

Do you recommend a particular ripper that is good for keeping the sound?

Thanks
-BSR

[MOVIEGEEK]

You can't have your cake and eat it too,I would use DD5.1 or DD2.0 for player compatibility.
1.Use DVDShrink->Re-author->Start/End,but you can't add fades or menus.Advantages:Free,no reencoding,can use DTS and DD5.1.
2.Use Ulead VideoStudio 8,Nero VisionExpress,TMPGEnc DVD Author,etc to add fades/menus but they don't support DTS and you have to reencode the audio to DD2.0.Advantages:fades/menus

BTW...use DVDDecrypter in File mode for DVDShrink and IFO mode(Stream Processing) for other programs.

[bigscaryrobot]

You can't have your cake and eat it too

Theres no point if i cant do it this way. Its a sound DEMO DVD. It's to showcase different sound formats.

-BSR

[MOVIEGEEK]

I see,
You know you can buy these DVD's from Crutchfield.com,etc?

[bigscaryrobot]

You have an opinion on this Reboot? Did I lose you? Are you sick of me yet?

-BSR

[reboot]

well...like I said earlier...get what you need out of the dvds with an editor.
Save the audio in whatever format you choose.
DVDLab doesn't care much what you put into it, but if audio isn't the same, you need multiple VTS to author it.

[bigscaryrobot]

Reboot,
Did you already give me a recommendation on a good ripper/editor?

Thanks again
-BSR

[reboot]

DVD Decrypter to rip.
Tmpgenc mpeg editor to edit (or cuttermaran, or even womble mpeg vcr).

[guns1inger]

You can use DVD Shrink to rip (in most cases) and trim, select audio streams and render to isolated VOB. These VOBs can be loaded into DVD Lab Pro as discussed. You are still going to have problems linking from clip to clip if the audio changes. Some players may accept it, some wil not be happy at all. I'd strongly suggest having a DD5.1 series of clips, then a DTS series of clips.

[bigscaryrobot]

Reboot,

First off, big thanks for all the help. I'n getting there. I've ripped the pieces of the DVDs I want and the audio, but I dont understand how to make multible VTS folders so I can got from DTS to DD EX to DD and so on. When I use DVDLab to burn it doesnt seem to let me choose multi folders to burn. I could not find this in your guide. Could you explain?

Also, when I try and "complie dvd" it gives me a warning stating " The first menu 'menu 1' has no buttons and infinity timeout: The first play links to it-this will lock up the player"

Do I have to have a menu? I'd rather just a DVD that plays when I stick it in. No menu needed here.

Thanks
-BSR

[bigscaryrobot]

Ok, I figured out the above. Now Im stuck on this:

If I have to make a video TS folder for each piece to keep the sound mix (DTS DD), how can I add transitions between the folders?

-BSR

[guns1inger]

I'm assuming you mean Video Title Set (VTS) in the tree down the left of DVD Lab Pro. The Video_TS folder is the folder your dvd files will end up in. You only one of those.

To transition between the folder seamlessly, you need to create a menu that will call the second clip. I would create a VMG menu with a 1 second timeout and an autolink to your second clip. In the connections window I would go from
First Play - First Title
First Title - VMG Menu
VMG Menu - Second Title
Second Title - First Title

This should cause it to loop indefinately.

[bigscaryrobot]

Hey,

Im trucking along pretty well here but Ive hit a snag. I was trying to pull a scene from star wars ep2 and when i follow the instructions as I have I've ripped trailers, but for some reason, i lose the sound. It occured to me that when i rip a trailer, i dont cut it. I am cutting these clips with dvdshrink. After dvdshrink makes the file, it still has sound. When I complie it in dvdlab, thats when I lose the sound. Any ideas on what that might be?

Another problem, is that DVDLAB doesnt seem to work with dvd-rw. It always tells me "USED DVD" when I try to write. When I hit erase/format it says its blanked the dvd, but when I hit "write" it gives the "USED DVD" error again.

thanks
-BSR

[bigscaryrobot]

Read above post and then read this:

I just noticed an error when compiling the dvd with dvdlab. It says "cannot packitize the audio." Does that make sense?

-BSR

[reboot]

You need to do audio externally.
Don't use dvdlab to burn, just write the compilation to your hard drive. burn with Nero or whatever.

[bigscaryrobot]

Man, everytime i'm getting close to being done I hit another wall. The Nero that came with my burner gives me an error that says I need the DVD-Video Plug-in because dolby digital 2.0 is unavailable. Huh? So when I burn them to disc, they have no sound. Is there another burner that can do 5.1, 6.1, etc without all these extra plugins?



-BSR

[reboot]

I think DVDecrypter may do it.
Try Alcohol120%.
My Nero 6.3.1.25 works fine with AC3...

[bigscaryrobot]

ok, ive been at this for too long. I seem to have nothing at this point. Here's where I am.

I have authored a bunch of trailers that have 2 channel (stereo) sound useing dvdlab. I now want to connect those trailers with another trailer that has 5.1 sound. When i compile them all together the 5.1 trailer goes haywire. I want no menus, just a DVD that will play all these trailers back to back. How can I do this?

Also, is there some why I can make a 16:9 mpeg that just shows black for a few seconds?

Also, Also, is there a way I can make a trailer that's not 16:9 into a 16:9 so that dvdlab can read it. It gave me errors telling me not to use both 4:3 and 16:9.

Thanks again again

-BSR

[reboot]

Put the 5.1 audio into the other track of a VTS.
Put the oddball aspect into a separate VTS.
Make a blank mpeg in any editor to get a "black for a few seconds" mpeg.
Seems that you've got too much on your plate for the first attempt.

[jimmalenko]

I'd mail it to reboot to do