is one chipset better than another for DV transfer?

[choirislife923]

i'm wondering because i recently bought a JVC GR-D72U, which is one of the notorious ones that need a TI Chipset in order to work without hassle (the whole workaround takes about 5 mins, if it works). My question is, is the TI chipset any better than my current generic VIA chipset?

I have captured with a Sony DCR-TRV350 (i believe thats the model...its a D8) and a Canon GL1. When capturing in Type 2, i would get audio dropouts here and there for about .5 seconds (you can hear a little bit of silence and then a pop sound afterwards when the audio comes back in). Type 1 gave me less problems.

However, if the TI chipset turns out to be better at fixing this problem (aka, recording Type 2 without screwing up audio while capturing), since my new JVC camcorder nags already, I might as well get one.

[mikesbytes]

Perhaps Gabriel could help

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/search.php?search_author=Gabriel_Brazil

[choirislife923]

no, that didn't help. gab only found out about the JVC firewire chipset requirement and the workaround for it (which i found out by googling).

my question is asking are the TI chipsets any better at transferring DV video than the VIA ones.

if the answer is yes, i go chuck out a little more dinero for a TI chipset based IEEE1394 card.

if not, I live with the workaround.

[mikesbytes]

Before blaming the hardware, why don't you try different software to do the transfer WinDV is freeware.

PS 1394 is used to perform a digital transfer, not a capture.

[choirislife923]

ok, I use WinDV, but does any chipset offer any benefits to another chipset? (e.g. different 56k modems have different error correction formulas, which results in either better or worse transfer speeds. can this be applied to firewire?)

[zleepy]

Maybe this will help. When the iPod came out, all the Fwire chipsets that
failed were NOT using TI chips.

So, I'd go with the TI, especially if you have or plan on an ipod.

[choirislife923]

lol, i have a first gen ipod and works somewhat fine with my VIA chipset. failed a few times, its just odd. I guess i'll buy the Ti one then.

[Gabriel_Brazil]

Hey Folks,

I still can´t capture with my JVC GR-D30....all the applications says that THERE IS NO DV CAMCORDER ON THIS SYSTEM...
I really need help, ´cause I don´t have enough money to buy another Camcorder...
Are there any workarounds to JVC Mini-DVs ???

Thanks....

[mikesbytes]

Hey Folks,

I still can´t capture with my JVC GR-D30....all the applications says that THERE IS NO DV CAMCORDER ON THIS SYSTEM...
I really need help, ´cause I don´t have enough money to buy another Camcorder...
Are there any workarounds to JVC Mini-DVs ???

Thanks....

Gabriel do you still have that problem..... Is it the camera or the computer? Have you taken your camera over to someones place that has successfully downloaded from their DV camera? Has someone elses camera been tried on your machine? Buy a TI chipset Firewire card.

[Gabriel_Brazil]

I tested my Firewire card (VIA) and the cable on another computer with a Sony Camcorder and it worked fine...
I just didn´t have the oppportunity to test another camcorder on my machine...
I´m thinking about selling my camcorder...I surrender...
And, I´m from Brazil ... tell me the firewire card models that have the TI chipset on it, ok ?

Thanks for the help ...
Bye...

[mikesbytes]

Could you try your camcorder on your friends machine. Some camcorders are incompatible with some DV cards.

[Skith]

I have an adaptec Duo-Connect 3121 (usb 2.0/firewire combo card) and it has TI firewire chipset on it. There are probably cheaper (and better) cards out there though.

[ofbarea]

I have tested several chipsets in two different machines and I was not able to tell any difference in performance for Video transfer. I actually transfer the same 35 minutes movie from a digital8 camcorder using WinDV. I created type 2 files.

Tested in a laptop:
- Ricoch: Internal firewire port of my laptop. Worked properly.
- Via: Through a PC card in my laptop. Worked properly.

Tested in my desktop:
- Nec: Chipset used by an Orange Micro card. Worked properly.
- Agere (Lucent): Build in port of an All-In-Wonder 8500DV card. Worked properly.
- Agere (Lucent): Generic and cheap firewire card. Worked properly.
- TI: Tested with an adaptec Duo-Connect 3121. Worked properly.
- Unknown???: Tested the bundled port of a Creative Audigy sound card. Worked properly.

[edDV]

Both DV and IEEE-1394 are standards and there is not supposed to be any difference in performance from one manufacturer to another. It looks like some compatability issues may still exist but that is it.

Also, Windows XP handles the IEEE-1394 connection and DV camera detection not the application.

Windows Movie Maker 2 DV-AVI import or the Camera and Scanner wizzard camcorder detection are good tests to show XP is working properly for IEEE-1394 DV detection and transfer.

[lordsmurf]

Both DV and IEEE-1394 are standards and there is not supposed to be any difference in performance from one manufacturer to another. It looks like some compatability issues may still exist but that is it..

Theory vs practice.
Maybe not "supposed to be" but there is.