Problem making PAL dvd using xvid 23.976 movie

[RuthlessMango]

I have spent a couple of days searching the forums and following a number of guides but im still having problems. I have used nerovision express 2 and 3, and TPMGEnc to encode but everytime i try to make a PAL mpeg2 i get intermittant pauses every half a second of the video. I have tried encoding in NTSC and was successful in playing it on my computer with no jerkiness, but none of my dvd players are able to play NTSC.

There is a guide here that explains how to convert an NTSC movie to PAL, but i have been unsuccesfull in using the BeSweet program. Any other suggestions?

[bugster]

If you can't follow the guides you are going to struggle.

The correct way of converting 23.97fps xvid to DVD is to speed it up to 25fps without changing the length or number of frames, and shrink the audio to match the new length. If its the audio part of this process you are having trouble with, try GoldWave and its TimeWarp tool.
(I know BeSweet and its GUI are not exactly userfriendly, to say the least )

[RuthlessMango]

I can follow the guides perfectly but none have been able to solve my problem. I am having no trouble with the sound at all it is perfect. It is just the video that pauses constantly.

[bugster]

I can follow the guides perfectly but none have been able to solve my problem. I am having no trouble with the sound at all it is perfect. It is just the video that pauses constantly.

OK, but what are you actually doing to the video to make it 25fps?

And if your sound is fine, why mention that you have problems with BeSweet?

[monzie]

"None of your DVD players can play NTSC" are you sure?...I dont know of any PAL region players that dont, it will be the TV if anything.

Also what framerate are you using to make a NTSC DVD? Do you run the mpg/m2v thru' pulldown.exe before authoring?

Have you tried using Avifrate.exe to convert your avi's to 25fps?

Lastly, but IMPORTANT, is the source XVID? If so you may have old codecs/filters installed.

[freebird73717]

Dvd2svcd can convert your ntsc xvid to pal dvd and it will do all the settings for you. It can use tmpgenc for the encoding.

[RuthlessMango]

OK, but what are you actually doing to the video to make it 25fps?

And if your sound is fine, why mention that you have problems with BeSweet?

Yeah sorry I was following this guide to convert the xvid to PAL: https://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?guideid=681#681 but got stuck on the BeSweet thing. I am able to convert the video to 25fps in virtualdub and with that avifrate program, but all that does is make media players play 1 frame extra per second, making the sound out of sync. Plus i dont think i want to be watching a movie that is slightly faster than normal on tv, even if i am able to speed up the sound to match. Basically what i see on the pc is what i want to see it on tv, but it seems like its extremely complicated.

And I have tried my NTSC dvd on 3 different dvd players on 3 different tvs but when i put the dvd in, the drive keeps cycling over and over and nothing happens. Maybe its an Australian thing... When i made this dvd it was done using an xvid 23.976 fps NTSC which was then converted to 29 fps NTSC in TMPGEnc by following one of the common guides here.

I have downloaded DVD2SVCD but its definatly not very user friendly, i had no idea what i was doing.

[macleod]

www.thefilmmachine.com

[bugster]

I am able to convert the video to 25fps in virtualdub and with that avifrate program, but all that does is make media players play 1 frame extra per second, making the sound out of sync. Plus i dont think i want to be watching a movie that is slightly faster than normal on tv, even if i am able to speed up the sound to match.

Everytime you watch a novie on a PAL TV that was originally shot on film, be it broadcast TV, VHS or DVD, that is exactly what you are watching. That is the way film, at 24fps is converted to PAL at 25fps. Done correctly, the audio pitch is corrected for the faster frame rate, sometimes even this is not done!

So, the correct way to convert your 23.97fps NTSC avi to PAL is to speed it up to 25fps and adjust the audio length and pitch to match. If you can't handle Besweet (and you wouldn't be the first ), try goldwave as I suggested.

By encoding direct to 25fps in Tmpgenc, you are adding duplicate frames to make it up to the correct framerate. Thats is waht cause the 'pausing' or jerkyness on playback you are seeing.

If all this is too complicated/too much work/not worth the effort to you, then go out and buy a DVD player/TV that will play NTSC DVD's

And I have tried my NTSC dvd on 3 different dvd players on 3 different tvs but when i put the dvd in, the drive keeps cycling over and over and nothing happens.

That sounds like an authoring problem or player/media compatibility issue rather than a PAL/NTSC issue.