For a friend: 3.4ghz Prescot is WAY hoT! 175hot!

[Faustus]

A friend just built his new work machine using a good case (same as mine) and says his new 3.4ghz Prescot is running super mega hot. If he even puts the side on the case he gets temp warnings in just mins.

It almost 175 degrees F. YOUCH! Stock fan with its little heat trasfer pad, He is also using 2 front fans and has a 2 fan PSU and another fan in the back by the CPU.

Anyone else ran into this?

[budz]

A friend just built his new work machine using a good case (same as mine) and says his new 3.4ghz Prescot is running super mega hot. If he even puts the side on the case he gets temp warnings in just mins.

It almost 175 degrees F. YOUCH! Stock fan with its little heat trasfer pad, He is also using 2 front fans and has a 2 fan PSU and another fan in the back by the CPU.

Anyone else ran into this?

he may want to use another heatsink fan and use some good artic thermal paste. what kind of case does he have? maybe a aluminium case would be better for the PRESHOTT chip as rallynavvie calls it.

[Faustus]

Well the case is not optinal. LIke I said its his work machine. He has no give there. Here is the case.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=11-129-119&DEPA=1

Its been my exp with AMD that the stock fan should at least cut it. Is this not so with Intel these days?

[Cobra]

I always heard that Intel reference HSFs are hard to beat. Maybe it is just a particularly hot-running chip.

[glockjs]

WOW 175 F is 80 C...thats almost burnout temp. i would start by taking that crappy compound off the HSF and using arctic silver 5. but i doubt it's really running that hot. where is he getting these temps from? im guessing the mobo is reading the temp wrong

[Dr. DOS]

Use the BIOS temp listings vs a utility program... I've found the utility programs can often be wrong (at least on my POS MB)...

80c is way too hot. Do call intel... they will provide you idle and max temps for that exact chip.

Check with MB mfg for bios updates / flashes. Possibly the bios is reading the temps wrong and there is a fix.

[Faustus]

Use the BIOS temp listings vs a utility program... I've found the utility programs can often be wrong (at least on my POS MB)...

80c is way too hot. Do call intel... they will provide you idle and max temps for that exact chip.

Check with MB mfg for bios updates / flashes. Possibly the bios is reading the temps wrong and there is a fix.

I already suggested that he update his bios as I dont think the Prescot was out when that board was released. Says it didn't help. Since that time (since he went to bed) I've read that alot of people get bad readings from the bios. So I'll have him install some software to monitor from windows and see if the temps match up.

What a pain, makes me glad for my XP 3000+.

[Capmaster]

I've got a Preshot in my PC at home. Right now it's running at 131F. Load it down and it quickly rises to 154F, but the fans speed up and hold it right there.

[Faustus]

Ok so it seems to be running hotter then normal then. Interesting.

[ViRaL1]

BIOS temps may be more 'accurate' than what you might get from a utility. But you also have to keep in mind that what you're seeing in BIOS is virtually no load compared to running an operating system and apps. I'd definitely contact intel. If it's too hot, they'll let you know. Otherwise they'll have to replace it. :P

[SLICK RICK]

First I would remove that heat trasfer pad (that was the first thing I did when installing my P4 2.8 processor a year ago) then use some good thermal compound. The heatsink that came with the processor should work just fine as long as there is no overclocking being done.

[IAIHMB]

I also have a Prescott Intell 3.0 GHz processor, and it runs anywhere from 46 degrees celsius to 56 degrees celsius. I was getting scared, so I called Intel and they said that I shouldn't worry until it hits 69 degrees celsius (at least that's what I thought he said, got stuck with a foreigner and the language barrior was terrible. )

[ViRaL1]

¿Que?

[Capmaster]

I shouldn't worry until it hits 69 degrees celsius

That's 156F. That means I'm running right below the point I should start "worrying"

[rallynavvie]

Are you sure the HSF is seated properly on the die? That is hot even for a Prescott. They do have thermal throttling so I don't think you can actually destroy the chip but it can hinder performance being that hot. The OEM Intel HSFs are good, but not high performance. I always use aftermarket heatsinks even though I don't overclock. Mostly for their cooling ability and also since you can mate quieter fans to them.

All this makes me look forward to getting my 90nm Noconas. You think the Prescotts have heat issues

[waheed]

Not too sure about this, but i remember reading a article in a computer magazine, (i think Custom PC) which compared various processors along with benchmark tests, various other tests and the magazine stated that though Prescott chips are great for multi tasking, they have a problem with over heating. If i find the article, i will post it here.

[waheed]

Ok, it was actually a online review. You can read it here

it is actaully a review on the wincheter 90nm cpu, but mentions termal issues with the prescott chipset.

[mujahid7ia]

Press-hots! They're known for some crazy temps, but 175F?!! The stock HSF should be able to handle the CPU at lower temps, that's what it's made for. intel usually has pretty good HSFs...

[Faustus]

Press-hots! They're known for some crazy temps, but 175F?!! The stock HSF should be able to handle the CPU at lower temps, that's what it's made for. intel usually has pretty good HSFs...

Well last I spoke with him he was going to remove the crappy pad and apply some of the ARtic Silver I left over there. Hopefully that will do it. He actually knows almost as much about computers as I do (he just doesn't tend to keep up with current hardware) and the heat thing has us baffled.

He had an AMD before that ran hotter then normal regardless of what we did and eventually he had to have it replaced. (thankfully it was a boxed version) since neither of us overclock we tend to use the stock fans. I've actually found the post retail fans to be louder and more expensive. That and the stock fans have always cut it for me.

Next time I talk to him I'll let you know what happened.

[Craig Tucker]

My Athlon 3200 used to run at that sort ot temp with the crappy heatsink they supply with it, changed the sink and used arctic silver 3 paste temp went down from around 80 degrees C to 55.

[Faustus]

Well after removing the lame pad and gettin the silver out he is down to about 152 to 155. Safe but not by much. I think I've talked him into getting the xp-90 from Thermalright and putting a panaflo on it. That should sort him out temp wise.

[Cobra]

Intel should be ashamed that their users are having this sort of difficulty with the new CPUs. They should ensure their cooling will cut it on such a hot CPU.

[Faustus]

Intel should be ashamed that their users are having this sort of difficulty with the new CPUs. They should ensure their cooling will cut it on such a hot CPU.

Another reason I use AMD, their standard fans have always cooled well enough to work well.

[Cobra]

Their 64-bit HSFs are excellent, but it is helped by the fact that these CPUs seem to run pretty cool.

[Faustus]

Can't afford 64bit upgrade until most likely middle of next year. Which is guess is ok since I bet XP64 will be almost that far off at the pace they seem to be going.

[Cobra]

I'm after an XP3500 within the next month.

[Faustus]

Speaking of 64bit XP. HAs anyone noticed that since the MS Public Beta version there has been no leaked info, and no leaked betas to hear about on any webpages? Kinda strange really, any other MS product and some website would be hacking apart a leaked beta at least 5 times over by now, but instead NOTHING.

Makes ya wonder...

[MACCA350]

I have a P4 3.06Ghz with a Gigabyte Cooler-Pro PCU21-VG CPU fan.

34-38C with normal use, up to 55C while encoding.

80C , I'd start reaching for the fire extinguisher

cheers

[Faustus]

I have a P4 3.06Ghz with a Gigabyte Cooler-Pro PCU21-VG CPU fan.

34-38C with normal use, up to 55C while encoding.

80C , I'd start reaching for the fire extinguisher

cheers

Is that a prescott?

[ViRaL1]

I have a P4 3.06Ghz with a Gigabyte Cooler-Pro PCU21-VG CPU fan.

34-38C with normal use, up to 55C while encoding.

80C , I'd start reaching for the fire extinguisher

cheers

Is that a prescott?

3.06 was still 533FSB. Pretty surte it's a Northwood.