Rip and Burn HD DVD's

[kerpal]

Is there a way to rip a HD-DVD to my computer. I know that DVD Decrypter wont work. Also the HD DVD is only 4.3 gigs, so it can be backed up to a regular DVD, but I do not know how to Rip the DVD. Any tools available?

Kerpal

[budz]

Is there a way to rip a HD-DVD to my computer. I know that DVD Decrypter wont work. Also the HD DVD is only 4.3 gigs, so it can be backed up to a regular DVD, but I do not know how to Rip the DVD. Any tools available?

Kerpal

Why won't DECRYPTER work? Have you tried SMARTRIPPER? look for it over in the TOOLS SECTION. I wanna know why DECRYPTER don't work for you.

I'm a bit as to what it is you need to rip a HD DVD if it's on your HARD DRIVE already. Just burn it with a burning software.

[Cornucopia]

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edit: I'm assuming when you say "HD", you mean HiDef, not Hard Drive

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What you term "HD-DVD" could be one of 3 things:

1. True DVD-Forum blessed consumer HD-DVD's or BlueRay HDDVD's.

(There aren't any available to consumers yet...)

2. HD Material capped/recorded from an HD broadcast or sat feed and added to the DVD-ROM/ISO section of a DVD-recordable.

(Probably needs to be converted from Transport streams to Program Streams if it's to be seen on a regular DVD player. Otherwise, leave as-is. Probably DOESN"T have DRM--yet)

3. HD Material in the form of WindowsMedia WMV9 files in the DVD-ROM/ISO section of a DVD.

(Very likely to have DRM. If you don't have the access license, you're SOL. Also possible that it may not play on any backup, just the original--also SOL. )

My guess is on the last one. Sorry. Just hold on to the original and keep it in good condition.

Scott

[kerpal]

Its a High Definition DVD. The Video File is a wmv file. The whole thing is 4.38GB, and I just transfered the files to my hard drive and can watch it there. But I dont know if it needs to be Decrypted or how I would burn it.

[budz]

Its a High Definition DVD. The Video File is a wmv file. The whole thing is 4.38GB, and I just transfered the files to my hard drive and can watch it there. But I dont know if it needs to be Decrypted or how I would burn it.

i would think you would need to convert that wmv file to a mpeg if that's possible in order for you to burn it to a dvd. take a look at the guides. someone correct me if i am wrong.

here's a program but you gotta buy it.
https://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=vso_DivXtoDVD

[jimmalenko]

If its WMV, can't you just convert using TMPGEnc and any one of the guides here ?

[Gurm]

*sigh*

This is NOT an HD-DVD. This is a DVD with a WMV-HD file on it.

Yes, you can just use any of the guides for converting the file. Better yet, if your player already plays the original disc, just run off a copy using Nero's "copy disc" option. There's no protection on data discs, which is technically what that is.

[joepic]

Its a High Definition DVD. The Video File is a wmv file. The whole thing is 4.38GB, and I just transfered the files to my hard drive and can watch it there. But I dont know if it needs to be Decrypted or how I would burn it.

Are you aware of Cucusoft MPEG/AVI to DVD/VCD/SVCD/MPEG Converter Pro?

http://www.avi-vcd.com/avi-dvd.asp

Convert avi to VCD/DVD/SVCD compatible mpeg file
Support .VOB, .asf, .wmv format as input file
Support DivX, XviD avi format
Support MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG4 video format
Support MPEG layer1, layer2, layer3 audio format
Color correction function.
Support Subtitle, you can add subtitle onto your output movie. (You need to install VobSub software first.)
"Split function" to cut a big mpeg file into several smaller parts to fit a CD-R capacity
Support both TV systems: NTSC/PAL
Input/Output preview
Two output modes: Stretch to Fit / Lock Aspect Ratio
High audio quality
Can output *.m2v and *.mpa for DVD authoring
Support no sound avi files
Optimized for Intel Pentium 3 and Pentium 4 processors and AMD Athlon
Batch Function, Support converting multiple avi files to DVD VCD SVCD MPEG1/2 at the same instance
Merge/Join function, Support selecting several avi clips from different sources and combine them into one single output
Online upgrade/help service site (click here to enter)
In full version, added an Update Detector, you can easily know if a new version is available.

[Gurm]

Guys, you're missing the point.

He has a WMV file on a DVD. It's a DATA DISC. He just needs to drag and drop it in explorer. Pretty basic.

[BJ_M]

exactly -- it is just a disk copy, no "ripping" here ...

[budz]

i thought he meant HD DVD as in HARD DRIVE, which is why I thought he had a dvd movie on his HARD DRIVE.

[BJ_M]

YEA-- the "HD" term is used interchangeably here and gets me confused also -- as I think of HD as being High Def only ..

[Cornucopia]

I thought I already said that in my post...

[stiltman]

IMO,

HDD = hard disc drive = hard drive
HD = hi def

[BJ_M]

I thought I already said that in my post...

such wisdom bears repeating

[hotwings]

heh, I think I might happen to know what hd-dvd he's talking about.

If it's what I think it is, you need to burn all the files to a dvd using nero in udf mode. There should have been instructions with the file.

Oh and since microsofts ic9 or whatever has been approved for hd, is it fair to call this an hd-dvd?

[hotwings]

sorry, I meant ms vc9

[Cornucopia]

I wouldn't really call it that cuz it's just a bonus file on the ROM section of a disc (normal DVD disc). What if somebody put a 10 min. HiDef clip on a CD-R, would you then call it a HD-CD?

I'm waiting for the real thing.
When it comes, it'll have to have some type of "application structure" that allows for the muxing of multiple tracks & streams (incl. audio, subtitles/CC) AND includes the menuing/branching/navigation & chaptering capabilities of DVD that we've all come to know and love. Maybe it'll be VOB/IFO, maybe something new. XML-based? HiMat/MPV style? I would expect it to be a superset of the DVD spec.

Food for thought...

Scott

[hotwings]

Ok that tends to make sense, but until the hd stuff comes out em I really don't know a better name for such a disc.

Also another thing complicating the matter is if players will come out in the future that will be able to play the wmv file right off the disc. I don't know what the future holds in store, but like I said before since ms vc9 has been approved and this was encoded in vc9, that certainly is a possibility. If the players are able to do this, then such a disc would in fact become an hd-dvd even though it doesn't have all the bells and whistles, like a dvd with a movie only is still considered a dvd n'est-ce pas?

[Gurm]

Ok that tends to make sense, but until the hd stuff comes out em I really don't know a better name for such a disc.

It's a media file on a data disc. That's all. Don't "call" it anything. It's a data disc... that happens to have a WMV file on it.

Also another thing complicating the matter is if players will come out in the future that will be able to play the wmv file right off the disc. I don't know what the future holds in store, but like I said before since ms vc9 has been approved and this was encoded in vc9, that certainly is a possibility. If the players are able to do this, then such a disc would in fact become an hd-dvd even though it doesn't have all the bells and whistles, like a dvd with a movie only is still considered a dvd n'est-ce pas?

Nope. A "Video DVD" is a dvd in a special format that indicates that it's a video DVD. It's formatted COMPLETELY differently from a data DVD. (All who would argue the 'completely' part of that may hush now, I'm making a point dammit).

An "audio CD" is a CD that is formatted SPECIFICALLY to hold audio, and to be recognized by CD players. You can put FLAC files onto a data CD, and some players will play them, but that doesn't make that CD an Audio CD, does it?

Similarly, the fact that players may be introduced that will play DVD's that hold large WMV files doesn't make those discs Video DVD's or HD-DVD's. It makes them data DVD's with video files on them.

[hotwings]

except that special formatting you keep talking about for dvds...the udf/iso format is applicable to this wmv.

the disc was created using udf only. burning this disc in iso results in the wmv file losing it's index points and seek functions.

and who's to say what hd-dvd will look like? no one really knows, you are kind of comparing apples to oranges. dvd and audio cds are established standards, hd-dvd is not, even though it has some bidders. The VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders you have come to know and love may be things of the past.

I'm far from convinced.

[Gurm]

The point is that since HD DVD doesn't exist, it is incorrect to call this "HD-DVD".

Also, if the WMV loses its index points on the ISO then perhaps you ought to look into what program was mangling the WMV, hmm? On my hard drive WMV's work just fine. When I burn them to an ISO disc, they continue to work just fine.