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    Am trying to upgrade my 60GB primary drive to a 160GB primary drive. No problem with the system recognizing the new drive. I have removed everything from the old drive except the 2 XP PRO OS's (I run a dual boot configuration using Powerquests' Bootmagic--each OS about 7GB). I have used 2 sets of software to try and clone the old HD to the new (Adonis True Image and Partition Magic) and then resize the new OS's to 20GB each.

    Here's the problem. The primary OS loads but is extremely slooooowww! Rather than taking a couple of minutes to boot, it takes about 5-6. It recoginizes the new hard drive but then says the software is not Microsoft approved. I say to install anyway, it does. It also finds a new "volume". After rebooting, the loading is still at the same slow speed. Accessing anything from the disk is extremely slow.

    Here's the odd thing. The second OS loads normally. It recoginizes the new hard drive, installs the driver very quickly (no messae that the driver is not Microsoft approved), and everything seems to work OK, speedwise.

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated other than reinstalling everything from scratch. Thanks in advance.

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    First of all, why two xp installs on the same drive?

    All you need is to format the second partition using NTFS.

    You only need 1 bootable XP partition and the second could be used for data.

    XP has a files and settings transfer wizard.

    I recommend you use that or you could use Norton Ghost to backuo the files to the other hard drive.
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    Bazooka,

    Thanks for the reply.

    Second XP OS is strictly for video editing. I have a dedeicated video editing card and it's considerably faster that way--especially during encoding. You can load all of the software onto one OS, but it really slows things down because of all the other apps that are running.

    Like I said, I've tried 2 different image copying software with the same results. Partition Magic (also from Symantec) enables copying a partition to unallocated space on another drive. In fact, I've used both of the apps on other upgrades without any problem. Must be something to do with the dual-boot cofiguration.

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    I really do not understand your thinking at all.

    Unless you have a corporate version of Xp, it does not like to be ghosted.

    The card would work the same no matter how many partitions you have.

    You only need 1 OS.

    The encoding time is decided by your processor and the load placed on it with memory also having a factor in the decision.

    Having multiple instances of the same OS has nothing to do with encoding.
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    I do understand that 1 OS will work, albeit a lot slower.

    In my OS for video I just have video editing apps installed--nothing else. Because there are no other, or should I say fewer, apps running that include real-time processes, the encoding is a lot faster--roughly 30% I would say. At one time I also ran Win98SE as a third OS without any problems.

    Bottom line is that my current dual-boot system works well. I'm simply having problems cloning my existing hard drive to a new one.

    Again any help in that regard would be appreciated.
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    Like I said,

    Xp does not like to be replicated.

    You need to deactivate xp on the one drive and activate it on the other drive.

    If you have the install disc, install xp on your drive and then install your apps.

    I cannot tell you what to do, but your reasoning still doesn't make sense. It is an inefficient use of resources.

    You will achieve the same results with just 1 partition and shutting off some programs.

    Like I said, processor speed and ram dictate encoding time.

    The number of programs installed doesn't matter.

    It is how many you have running at the same time.

    The only time you would need dual boot is is you are running linux/windows like I am or if you are running a legacy app written for 95 or 98 and the environment feature of Xp will not run the app.
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  7. I don't understand why Bazooka says XP doesn't like to be replicated. I have been 'ghosting' XP for about a year, every two weeks as backup.

    There were problems in the beginning trying to 'ghost' with multiple CDs that had "invalid spanned file" errors, but since I switched to DVD backups, I have had no problems. I use a special configuration for video/DVD work (bare bones, lean and mean) and constantly use these backups to switch configurations, so I know they work. I haven't installed SP2 yet (well, I did, but a few apps started acting up so I went back to my last SP1 backup), but for SP1, Ghost is terrific.
    If it works, don't fix it.
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    Thanks dxj40c for your reply.

    I too have been running 2 XP OS's for a couple years now with never a problem. Glad someone else also supports the notion of an OS just for video. Just for grins, I checked the CPU usage at idle this AM. For my main OS, it was about 30%. For my video OS, it was down around 4%. Small wonder that encodes are so much quicker in the video OS.

    Again my problem has been to simply make a clone of my working hard drive. I'll try a few other things and then Ghost if all else fails. Strange thing is that I've used both True Image and Partitiion Magic successfully before. Thanks again.

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  9. Dual boot installs aren't a problem when using Drive Copy.

    Run Drive Copy from a DOS prompt. You can make an unlimited number of copies of XP installs. You can expand small HD installs to larger HD.

    If you want to change out the hardware run the XP resealing program prior to using Drive Copy.

    Acronis True Image does a great job of making image backups of XP installs. And it offers the option of creating a DOS boot CD that loads USB drivers to recover image files from an external USB hard drive.

    Acronis has saved my butt several times with my laptop HD.

    Don't try to span multiple DVDs. Pay up and get an external USB HD. I know FireWire is 'better'. But with Aconis and an external USB HD you can access any info at any time, anywhere from the backup image file. This means that if you need to, from within Windows you can grab a single email or .dll file or whatever, off the back up image file .
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    ThomasW

    Thanks for the reply. I've tried True Image 2 ways--creating an image and then restoring and also its direct clone method. Still the same result--it works, but the boot time is extremely slow (5 to 6 minutes). However, once booted, it seems to work OK.

    Also tried Sysprep, but it never finished executing for some unknown reason. From your experience, how long does it take to execute? After an hour, I finally realized that the process was "dead".

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    added: Incidenally, my "new" drive is connected via a mobile hard drive rack to an IDE card (Promise TX2).
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    On my 2.2 Athlon system resealing probably no takes more than 30 seconds, I've never really timed it.

    From the sounds of things you've got something goofy going on with your XP install. Run msconfig.exe and see what's happening.

    Can you plug the HD directly into an IDE slot? The culprit maybe the system finding and loading the Promise controller. I know when I use a SCSI card the boot process is slowed down quite a bit, but certainly not by minutes
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