Locking the First Play movie item

[Sefy]

How and with which program can I Lock the "First Play" item, so a person can not press the Next or Menu button to skip it. You know, like in all the Original DVD's where they stick a commercial that you can't skip ?

How do I do it, and with which program.
Remember, the more I know, the more you'll know

[andkiich]

It's the PGC in the IFO. Use IFOEDIT.

[Sefy]

Can you explain exactly what to do ? as in a Step by Step ? since i've never used IFOEDIT before

[SLK001]

Sefy,
Try this:
1) Open your VIDEO_TS.IFO file.
2) Under VMVM_MAT (click on the name and a [-] box will appear), you'll see "First Play PGC".
3) Click on the First Play PGC line, and it's information will appear in the bottom pane.
4) In the bottom pane, there is a line called "Prohibited user operations" (the infamous P-OPs).
5) Double click on this line, and a box with all the P-UPs will pop up.
6) In this box, check all of them.

This will prevent anyone from doing anything during the FIRST PLAY PGC feature.

Once you have done this, jump out of the First Play PGC, then back in to it to see the options now listed (IFOEdit doesn't auto-update).

Note that I haven't done this before (I'm more interested in giving my viewer all the options I can), so create a backup of the VIDEO_TS.IFO file, in case something goes terribly wrong!

[rallynavvie]

I'm pretty sure you can do this in Maestro too by not assigning any of the commands to the first play video stream other than where it goes after it's done playing. I don't have access to Maestro anymore so I can't check. I can tell you it isn't likely possible in Encore as the end action of a timeline allows a user to use the track skip key to jump ahead to it. Sounds like editing the IFO is probably the best method since it can be done regardless of the authoring program you use, unless of course that authoring app doesn't allow you to output to _TS folders. Maybe using Alcohol to mount an image from an authoring app will allow you to make changes to the IFO, I haven't played with it enough to know.

[SLK001]

I'm pretty sure you can do this in Maestro too by not assigning any of the commands to the first play video stream other than where it goes after it's done playing. I don't have access to Maestro anymore so I can't check. I can tell you it isn't likely possible in Encore as the end action of a timeline allows a user to use the track skip key to jump ahead to it. Sounds like editing the IFO is probably the best method since it can be done regardless of the authoring program you use, unless of course that authoring app doesn't allow you to output to _TS folders. Maybe using Alcohol to mount an image from an authoring app will allow you to make changes to the IFO, I haven't played with it enough to know.

The high end authoring tools can indeed do this. However, with IFOEdit, you can author with any authoring tool, then modify the appropriate .IFO to insert the prohibited user ops you desire.

[Baldrick]

don't learn him...."Prohibited user operations" should be FORBIDDEN to use!!!

[SLK001]

don't learn him...."Prohibited user operations" should be FORBIDDEN to use!!!

Sorry... I erroneously opened up the "super secret information" files!

[Sefy]

Thanks guys! I'll give it a try and let you know
Oh, and Baldrick :P
I'm very upset you still didn't update the Guide to 2.4 on DVDRhelp

Now my own homepage is dead and I don't even have anywhere to test the guide before I release it, this sucks

The Good News is, I got a DVD Writer thanks to the donations, so i'm gonna start working on adding a DVD to DVDR backup for newbies, so you'll find me asking lots of stupid DVD questions

[The village idiot]

so you'll find me asking lots of stupid DVD questions

I certain the questions that you ask will not be stupid by any definition of the word.

[cinemode]

hi, i would like to find out how to "lock play" on a track(not necessary the first track) using SCENARIST.
i am currently doing a digital magazine and so I would like the viewer to view a certain clip first (as advert or something like dat, for the sponsors) when they click to return to menu or to another page, so i would like to set such tracks as such that the viewers are "forced" to view before going to the next page.

thanks! really need help here.

[Baldrick]

I'm very upset you still didn't update the Guide to 2.4 on DVDRhelp

www.dvdrhelp.com/sefy

[SLK001]

hi, i would like to find out how to "lock play" on a track(not necessary the first track) using SCENARIST.
i am currently doing a digital magazine and so I would like the viewer to view a certain clip first (as advert or something like dat, for the sponsors) when they click to return to menu or to another page, so i would like to set such tracks as such that the viewers are "forced" to view before going to the next page.

thanks! really need help here.

It's been a while since I used Scenarist, but if I remember correctly, right-clicking on the item in the "mapping window" will allow you to view and set properties.

But then, maybe it's been too long since I used the program.

[Sefy]

Thanks Baldrick!
Oh and thanks everyone for answering, by the way, locking EVERYTHING and the DVD won't play at all

[SLK001]

by the way, locking EVERYTHING and the DVD won't play at all

Use common sense to remove the obviously unneeded PU-oPs.

Keep
TIME PLAY OR SEARCH
TITLE PLAY
STOP
TIME OR PTT SEARCH
NEXT PG SEARCH
FORWARD SCAN
BACKWARD SCAN

[cinemode]

Use common sense to remove the obviously unneeded PU-oPs.

Keep
TIME PLAY OR SEARCH
TITLE PLAY
STOP
TIME OR PTT SEARCH
NEXT PG SEARCH
FORWARD SCAN
BACKWARD SCAN

if i do not want the user to scan fwd or back or skip this track.... ie... user MUST watch thru the whole clip before going to the next... wat do i take out as well?

[Sefy]

@SLK001, I tried what you said with IfoEdit, however, even it's own Player would skip or go to the Menu even thought I set it not to, so that didn't do it

As for "Maestro" it does not run on Windows98SE as it requires NT based OS

[Sefy]

Just incase someone wants to know, i've found how to "lock" which is basicly not a lock, you need to have the Authoring program disable the remote buttons for it to work. I've managed to accomplish it finaly using the new DVD Architect v2.0, which to me, was the nicest and easiest to use so far!

[SLK001]

As for "Maestro" it does not run on Windows98SE as it requires NT based OS

Come on, Sefy, when are you going to "come into the light" and upgrade to a modern operating system?

[Sefy]

Never if it's upto me, I use what works, not what Microsoft forces users into. If i'll be forced into anything, i'll use Linux or OS/2, but never again a "newer" Microsoft system

[daamon]

Just incase someone wants to know, i've found how to "lock" which is basicly not a lock, you need to have the Authoring program disable the remote buttons for it to work.

Hey Sefy, not sure what you mean by this - can you elaborate please... I set this thread to be watched as I know it's something I'll want to do in the future... Ta.

[Sefy]

Hi daamon,

Basicly if you want to do what I wanted to do, which is "lock" the first play item so the user can't skip it (or fast forward or anything) then don't look for a "lock" option, find an Autoring Tool which enables you to control the DVD Remote buttons

What I did was use DVD Architect 2.0 and click on the first play movie item, and saw it has a + next to the "Remote Buttons" so I clicked it and saw that you have full control of which buttons the user can press ot not, and by not enabling them, you simply can't "skip" the movie

[daamon]

Hi Sefy,

Cheers for the info, much appreciated.

[vcdnerd]

Is there anyway of doing this in Pinnacle Studio9??

[Sefy]

@vcdnerd, if you are control over your remote buttons, then I don't see a reason why not. however, i'm not familiar with Pinnacle Studio9, so I can't say for sure