CD-R 90 minutes (800 Mo)

[Lucius Snow]

Hello all,

I'd like to know if this type of CD causes any problem of compatibility for reading on CD ROM drives. Are they as reliable as 74 or 80 minutes CD ?

Which brand would you advice me ? My burn is a Nec 1300A (official firmware 1.08) and my softwares Alcohol 120% and Nero (latest versions for both).

Thank you
Cheers.

[garryheather]

The track spiral is a lot closer together making the track pitch narrower, which can cause problems for some (older, mainly) players. It's only recently that the CD consortium acknowledged 80 minute discs so technically anything larger than that is not conforming to the standards.

Mind you, I'm a boring old fart and remember when 63 minute discs were the norm and 74 minute discs had problems. Anyway, I digress. Some players, most notably the older ones, will have problems with them. Some car players or portables using shock protection involving spinning the disc at 2 or more times faster than the norm may also have problems. DVD players fare better because they're designed for the tighter data density of DVD's, but then not all DVD players like CD-R's anyway.

There are not a lot of manufacturers making 90 minute and above, so I don't think you will have a lot of choice in brands. However I only ever use the smallest disc I can get away with (excluding 8cm ones that don't work with slot loaders, for example) and don't advocate anything over 80 minute (including overburning) when going for maximum compatibilty.

You may have to "suck it and see". YMMV.

[indolikaa]

Ditto.

[adam]

Back when I made alot of SVCDs I tried every 90 min cdr I could find. My Apex player played them ok but most other dvd players wouldn't. Usually problems would start occurring near the end of the disk.

Dedicated CDroms and DVDroms will handle them better, but like others said older models have more problems and there's really never any guarantee that it will work.

IMO the biggest problem is that there just aren't any quality manufacturers making 90 or 99 min cdrs. ( I think they may even have 120 min ones.) Every brand I tried was just terrible. You know, they are those disks that are paper thin and totally transparant, and find a way to just stop working after a few months.

Anyway, they definitely aren't as compatible or reliable as 80 min cdrs (do they even make 74 min cdrs anymore?) but I guess your mileage may vary.

[indolikaa]

I had heard rumors of discs claiming a capacity greater than 99 minutes, but given the Red Book's exacting standards for the Q channel, there's no way they'd play on a CD player, so I wrote it off as a gimmick.

[adam]

I thought I read about 120 min cdrs but it might have just been some company's pipe dream. But even if they exist, if the capacity is increased in the same way as other high capacity media (90 or 99 min disks) then I can't imagine them playing on anything other then the burner that burnt it.

Of course there's always HD-Burn which allows you to burn 1.4 Gigs on a standard 80 min disk and its supposed to be readable by any dvd player, but requires a firmware upgrade. Supposedly it really works well too, but with dvd burners and media dropping in price so much I don't really see much point in investing in high capacity cd technologies. DVD is where its at.

[indolikaa]

Of course there's always HD-Burn which allows you to burn 1.4 Gigs on a standard 80 min disk and its supposed to be readable by any dvd player, but requires a firmware upgrade. Supposedly it really works well too, but with dvd burners and media dropping in price so much I don't really see much point in investing in high capacity cd technologies. DVD is where its at.

Yep.

When I purchased my Optorite DD-0203 drives, the HD-Burn feature was a novelty at best. I've used it a couple of times, but it serves very little purpose without widespread firmware acceptance. It would be a great VideoCD medium, but we have DVD-MPEG1 capability in the DVD Forum standards, so why bother?

I backed up some of my MP3 collection to HD-Burn. Rock-solid data format, I can attest to that. And it reads just as fast as regular CD-Rs.

[Lucius Snow]

Thanks for your feedbacks.

Actually is not to burn audio or video but data only. I make an unattended install of XP+SP2 with drivers and softwares integrated. So now, it depends of how old the CD ROM drives are. Of couse i won't install XP on a 5 years machine so it won't be that old.

About the brand, i've bought some TDK disks. I trust them more than the noname.