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    I have dish network and I think I've noticed a significant drop in picture quality sometime over the last 3 months.

    In low lit scenes - like characters walking down a darkened ally I see pixalation in the shades of black that I never saw before.

    Anyone else have this issue? Has this been like this all along or has it gotten worse?
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    Welcome to the club bro'. Been that way for the 2 years I've been with this crew. My next move is zoom HDTV. Analog and digital cable sucks.
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    Originally Posted by DVWannaB
    Welcome to the club bro'. Been that way for the 2 years I've been with this crew. My next move is zoom HDTV. Analog and digital cable sucks.
    Isn't it called "Voom"?
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    Yes it is. But I'm in such a hurry to leave Dish Network, that it might as well be called ZOOM!!!
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    I agree, the quality sucks, and that pixelation (dark scene) really makes all the work you put into captures/authors/burns seem a waste of time. I dropped all satellite tv and now I just buy/backup and watch DVD's only.
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  6. Initial reports indicate that VOOM rocks! If I had a HDTV today I'd definitely get a subscription, even to complement my DirecTv service (which also has been having PQ issues lately).
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    Originally Posted by pyrohydra
    Initial reports indicate that VOOM rocks! If I had a HDTV today I'd definitely get a subscription, even to complement my DirecTv service (which also has been having PQ issues lately).
    pyro,

    stupid question for the day. What does PQ stand for? I have seen it in many posts and and boards, but was too proud to ask what it stands for and what it means. Thanks.

    yes!!!! VOOM rocks!!!! TV as it should be.
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    Picture Quality, the most important thing in all our lives
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  10. I haven't looked in awhile, so I thought I'd fire up the Alpha-Q programmer and see 'Whazzup?!' :P


    Worse than DirecTV right now. Is it just me or does the audio quality sound like they're starting to shave a few bits there, too?
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    Originally Posted by pyrohydra
    Initial reports indicate that VOOM rocks! If I had a HDTV today I'd definitely get a subscription, even to complement my DirecTv service (which also has been having PQ issues lately).
    I caught part of a Voom info-mercial recently and they said you don't even need an HDTV set for the service. This would work out great for someone who plans to do a lot of capturing.
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    Originally Posted by teegee420
    Originally Posted by pyrohydra
    Initial reports indicate that VOOM rocks! If I had a HDTV today I'd definitely get a subscription, even to complement my DirecTv service (which also has been having PQ issues lately).
    I caught part of a Voom info-mercial recently and they said you don't even need an HDTV set for the service. This would work out great for someone who plans to do a lot of capturing.
    Yeah, like me
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  13. Originally Posted by teegee420
    I caught part of a Voom info-mercial recently and they said you don't even need an HDTV set for the service. This would work out great for someone who plans to do a lot of capturing.
    How would one go about capturing the Voom? Do their receivers have 1394 out?
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    Just checked out the voom site. It looks like it has a promising future, but channel selection is very limited.

    No Sci Fi network for one I am not giving that up.

    It's been forever since I had cable. Is digital cable any better?

    Or...is direct TV any better?
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    It's getting to the point that I'm half expecting Dish to start streaming JPEGs of a movie, with 4K sound. "Lookee, me save bandwidth! Me hero!"
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    Originally Posted by pyrohydra
    Originally Posted by teegee420
    I caught part of a Voom info-mercial recently and they said you don't even need an HDTV set for the service. This would work out great for someone who plans to do a lot of capturing.
    How would one go about capturing the Voom? Do their receivers have 1394 out?
    I would imagine you would use the same connection to your analog TV. You wouldn't be capturing in true HD but I can almost guarantee the picture would be better than Dish.
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  17. my timewarner digital cable is pretty good. i have dish network too and yes it does suck.
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    I had digital cable too at one time and yes, the picture was good for the few channels that were actually digital(mostly premium). Plus the picture would momentarily scramble randomly. I got rid of it because of that.
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  19. Well, if anything positive would've come out of the failed merger, it would've been a plethora of bandwidth...

    They could've serviced all 210 DMAs and had no problem boosting the PQ to all channels.
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    Yes. Dish Network quality sucks.
    Want my help? Ask here! (not via PM!)
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  21. Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Yes. Dish Network quality sucks.

    Opinionated little Smurf, aren't you?
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    "Lookee, me save bandwidth! Me hero!"
    I have family for whom this quote is not outside the realm of possibility.
    "It's getting to the point now when I'm with you, I no longer want to have something stuck in my eye..."
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    Originally Posted by indolikaa
    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Yes. Dish Network quality sucks.
    Opinionated little Smurf, aren't you?
    DirecTV really started to suck last year too. I cut off my service for a few months but I'm not missing it too much. Cable (free with Internet) gives me the 2-3 stations I want.

    My biggest problem is missing shows.

    I play no favorites. I hate them equally right now.
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  24. Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Originally Posted by indolikaa
    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Yes. Dish Network quality sucks.
    Opinionated little Smurf, aren't you?
    DirecTV really started to suck last year too. I cut off my service for a few months but I'm not missing it too much. Cable (free with Internet) gives me the 2-3 stations I want.

    My biggest problem is missing shows.

    I play no favorites. I hate them equally right now.

    You know, if you're interested, I could offer you some advice on how to make your computer a PVR. I have some experience with the ATI All-In-Wonder capture cards, and they make a fine alternative to TiVo and Replay TV.
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    Originally Posted by indolikaa
    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Originally Posted by indolikaa
    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Yes. Dish Network quality sucks.
    Opinionated little Smurf, aren't you?
    DirecTV really started to suck last year too. I cut off my service for a few months but I'm not missing it too much. Cable (free with Internet) gives me the 2-3 stations I want.

    My biggest problem is missing shows.

    I play no favorites. I hate them equally right now.

    You know, if you're interested, I could offer you some advice on how to make your computer a PVR. I have some experience with the ATI All-In-Wonder capture cards, and they make a fine alternative to TiVo and Replay TV.
    Yeah, but what are you gonna capture? You know the 'ole saying ... "Garbage in.......garbage out". They all suck. ONWARD WITH VOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!!! (when the wife allows it )
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  26. Yeah. I'm waiting for my wife to give me the "go ahead" on HDTV

    I'm just gonna stick with my digital cable for now and digital Internet service. I've seen both Dish and Direct and haven't been impressed enough to make a switch. Either as concerns PQ or price.
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    What the hell is VOOM ?


    ... nevermind
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  28. I do not feel bad for not chosing DirectTV or cable for my TV viewing (although my house has been equipped with both).

    1) I have seen similar poor PQ at my friend's home with his DirectTv programs (pixellation once in a while, PQ sometimes is similar to CVD quality !!!

    2) I have been using regular antenna with a TIVO box, I have more shows and movied than I have time to watch. Paid life time subscription and now everything is free.

    3) recently bought a HDTV tuner (for use with my wide screen HDTV), the PQ is superb. I have not seen any quality drop out yet. Paid 300$ for the tuner and all programs are free. Although there are not as many channels with cable or DirectTV, I still have lot more than I can watch. On top of that, most folks with DirectTv or cable spent lot more time browsing thru channels than watching them.
    ktnwin - PATIENCE
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    yea, they've been upping their compression recently to try to squish more channels into their lineup to for the digital cable/DBS battle.
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