SuperTV Tuner/Capture Card Question

[deepfriedluigi]

OK, I have just installed a PCI TV Tuner, I am wanting to capture at 640x480 at 30fps. I can do this just fine with no dropped frames and it barely even uses any cpu resources, the only problem is none of my video programs can open the file after it's done recording. The program just freezes. Another huge problem is I can not set a compression because the program I am using doesn't allow it. It is the program that came with my capture card. It is some default Program.

Another huge problem is is uncompressed, 1 minute of video is 1.65gb... My Harddrive is only 37.2gb so I don't think I will be able to capture I full movie like this, can anybody direct me to a place to download a program where I can either compress on the fly or help me change the file size or something? Thanks...

Also, If i remove the audio from the video file with virtual dub, I can play the video file back in my player, with the audio left in, it won't play. Even if i save the audio as a wav, strip down the avi, save it without audio, reopen the avi, insert the wav audio, and save it again...

Can anybody please help? Im new to this...

My PC:

Intel Celeron 2.20GHz
256mb DDR SDRAM
37.2GB HDD

[deepfriedluigi]

Somebody please help? Im sitting here wondering what to do

[videofun]

Hi,
what o/s do you use? which progs can't open your files? have you installed any mjpg codecs (like picvideo) and have you tried any other capturing progs (like avi_io, virualdub etc)?

[deepfriedluigi]

Hi, thanks for your reply.

Im on Microsoft Windows XP Home.

I have tried AVI/O and it does compress on the fly, however, It keeps kicking my computer off. So I deleted it.

I have virtual dub, and it does capture, but I have no idea how to choose what to capture from or how to capture with it. If you know, and could help me, I would appreciate it.

I can't open my video files with pcm audio with any program. I can't open it with BSplayer, Windows Media Player 9. Etc....

I would like to be able to fit 2 hrs of video on a 4.7gb dvd disk with resonable quality, no dropped frames at 30fps at 640x480. I have tried the microsoft mpeg codec at a high bitrate but it is ugly if i use anything below 8000 and has lots of artifacts. If I use 8000 with audio, I lose frames while converting on the fly, and the video is too big for a dvd-r (like 45mb for a 1min file).

Also, when I capture with my tv tuner capture card, there is usually interlacing problems? What Can I do About These?

Thanks for your help and answering my questions! I dunno what to do

P.S. I know it is the audio causing the players not to be able to play them, because if i remove the audio with virtual dub the players open them right up.

[vcdforme]

I think Virtualdub is a bit complicated for a beginner.

You may want to use something simpler like Virtual VCR
to start.
also install Huffyuv codec, this will get your huge AVI files
down to a manageable size.
https://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=197#comments


Read the guides to your left on capturing to AVI.

[Moonstomp]

Hi diepfriedluigi,

vcdforme just pipped me in recommending the combination of virtualvcr

http://virtualvcr.sourceforge.net/ and huffyuv. They work a treat if your TV card is supported. (What TV card do you have ??) And they're FREE !!

You could also try Ulead's DVD Moviefactory if you want to invest in an all-in Capture/Author/Burn package.


Capturing is not an easy process and it takes a lot of trial and error to get it right - been there done that.

Read lots of guides and try out a few different programs and see what works best for you. Here's a great site : www.digitalfaq.com

Cheers,

Moonstomp.

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[deepfriedluigi]

virtual vcr doesn't work for me either

[deepfriedluigi]

Hey, can you tell me how to make it so my players don't crash when I leave the audio in my videos?

[pchan]

You did not mention what codec that you have installed. First you must install a proper codec. This will bring down the 40gig per hr video to about 13gig. Try use PicVideo MJPEC codec.

[yoda313]

Hello,
Why don't you use the software that came with the card? It should have several dvd quality settings. One of them should be small enough to fit 2 hours on dvd-r. The quality won't be as good as the top setting but will still be better than vcd or svcd.

If you don't have the installation disc go the cards website and download the capture software. It should be good enough to do what you want with it.
Kevin

[deepfriedluigi]

The software that came with the card has no codec settings, you can only capture uncompressed with it. It's not 40gb per hour, it 100gb per hour. Nobody has still told me how to solve the problem of my players not playing the PCM audio... Also, I have all codecs installed, divx, xvid, mpeg, etc...

[videofun]

Hi deepfriedluigi,
you said that "virtualvcr does not work for me eilther", does this mean that you cannot capture with this prog or that you can capture but you have the same behaviour from your avi files (no sound etc)?.
Have you configured virual vcr correctly ?(like devices tab, device settings -> capture pin properties to set the correct colour space and the resolution , video tab use compression and select the compression you want and many others) You see virtualvcr works with any tv/capture card i've seen till now.

[lordsmurf]

Not once have you said which card. Not all are equal!

[deepfriedluigi]

The card has no name.

There is nothing wrong with this card to where it shouldn't capture the audio. It is capturing the audio, I just have to remove it before I can play the files back. All the box says is Super TVTuner.

[Nelson37]

How do you know there is nothing wrong with the card??? Obviously, there is SOME sort of problem.

You really need to do some more reading. You will learn many necessary things, such as that 640x480 is NOT a valid DVD resolution. Also why interlacing usually should NOT be a "problem".

The "default program" must have some sort of name or company information. Try Help, then About on the menu.

There are extremely complete instructions on using VirtualDub available on this site. They have been compiled over some time with input and corrections from many different users. They cover more ground than any single post is likely to be able to do.

[msdan]

I think you should use xVid codec for the image and for the sound I will go with PCM 44100;

probably the sound is hanging your system (you are not using the right audio codec);

iuVCR is letting you to choose the audio/video compression

xVid - maximum quality - it will take you almost 8G for 2 hours movie (and the quality is comparable with the source)

[yoda313]

Hello,
If he wants dvd the sound must be 48khz.
Kevin

[deepfriedluigi]

Ok, I have noticed something, the problem I am having with audio not playing and freezing my players goes beyond just my capture card. I can't play any movies with sound. Yet sound plays on my tv tuner when it is running, can somebody tell me what's wrong? It's not a codec.

[lordsmurf]

You've got to back yourself up a bunch of steps. Start over on one project. Do ONE thing at a time, and verify each step.

This is not something you can just blast through at full speed without knowing what you're doing.