How to transfer DVD content from - R disc to PC

[HMFC]

Hi can anyone please help.

I have a whole load of famliy videoes that I would love to put on disc for my folks anniversary. After mucking about with new ports and software I've given up and bought a Pan DVD recoredre and am managing to transfer the old video files on to disc.

Problem is though that my PC can't play RAMs so I'm having to record on -R Discs.

I'm now trying to move the contents of these discs over to the HD of the PC for editing through something like Roxio or Pinnacle 8 (unless someone can tell me I should be using something else)

But I'm stuck! I don't know how best to do this and the time clock is fast ticking before next Saturday

PLEASE HELP SOMEONE!!

[DaveS]

HMFC - here's one approach using two free tools. before getting into that, there may be other newer tools that let you directly open / edit the VOB files from your DVD to re-author those...if you can spend on one of those, it may be worth it. not sure if that includes roxio or maybe nero but it will be worth a little time looking into, unless you are already well versed in editing your mpegs once you have them.

anyway, if you want, you can rip your -r DVD using dvddecrypter. use the mode/IFO I, which should give you one VOB file onto your hard drive. then, use vobedit to open your vob file. then, use the demux button and select 'mpeg stream' to get your mpeg file out of the VOB file. you can then cut/join that w/ your editor (although you will get mixed reviews on editing mpegs w/ studio - some can do it and some find it difficult).

hopefully this will get others to jump in as well...good luck w/ your project!!

[HMFC]

Dave, many thanks for the tips and hints.

I'll certainly go away and give it a try now that the kiddies are in bed for teh nite.

Thank you once again.

[ChrisX]

HMFC - The one thing you can do is to sell the Panasonic DVD recorder.

Then buy yourself a compatible Pioneer DVD/HD recorder having DVD-R and DVD-RW recording. I know this would cost ya money?

DVD-RAM is a no, no. This is why I didn't buy it. This format is of no use with any other equipment as universally incompatible.

I ended up having the Pioneer DVR-510H so that the disc recording can be compatible on all DVD players and DVD-ROMs using the DVD-R discs.

Another plus, some Pioneer DVD players have the RW compatibility icon on the machine so that it can play these DVD-RW discs. No issues there.

No hard work for me.

[HMFC]

Hi Chris - so how do you manage to get your files moved from disc on to your PC for further editing?

Sorry I'm a bit of a numpty when it comes to some PC stuff - surely despite what you're saying you still have to move the material over to HD on the PC?

[handyguy]

You can just put the disk in your computer & use any VOB editor.

"DVD-RAM is a no, no. This is why I didn't buy it. This format is of no use with any other equipment as universally incompatible. "

Not so, even BluRay is compatible with it. DVD-RAM is a small HD that you can write to 100,000 times. I have been using the same disk about 10 times a day for 15 months. There are plenty of DVD-RAM topics & you can easily edit anything you write on it on your PC.

[ChrisX]

Hi Chris - so how do you manage to get your files moved from disc on to your PC for further editing?

Sorry I'm a bit of a numpty when it comes to some PC stuff - surely despite what you're saying you still have to move the material over to HD on the PC?

On the first question, I really don't know. Another thing, does Panasonic allow you to burn a DVD-R disc?

I thought I remember that this format DVD-R is also available and the only problem is once copy only disc.

I know that editing is a tricky thing and nothing like viewing it. Can you just copy the DVD-R data into the hard drive of the PC?

Recently, I was going to buy the Panasonic and I certainly have thought about the DVD-RAM disc as double sided as good.

I then later considered DVD-RW more appropriate for my needs and with other DVD players generally.

[ChrisX]

DVD-RAM is a small HD that you can write to 100,000 times.

I am confused and I thought DVD-RAM is a double sided disc?

Unfortunately, I don't know much about it and I have considered one day having a Panasonic recorder as an extra together with the Pioneer digital recorder?

The reason is 80 GB hard drive isn't forever in capacity and good to have another one as storage of videos.

Is the same format DVD-RAM in use in the hard drive of Panasonic recorder?

[Bob W]

To get the files onto your computer just put the DVD-R disc into your DVD drive then open windows exployer and copy the disc to a folder. It's that simple and I do it all the time. My experience using Studio 8 is that I could never get it to complete any task without crashing my computer (and I tried it on three of them).

[overloaded_ide]

Bob W is correct, just copy the files from the DVD to the hard drive like you would any other file from drive to drive.

I have heard that sometimes it is faster to rip with DVDshrink, even though it's not needed for compression or decryption. I just added about Tmpgenc DVD Author for this at the bottom also.

ChrisX, he is already recording to -R disks he said. Your pretty correct about the Ram disks, though I was planning to buy a LG I think, it was 8x burner that also does Ram, only about $20 more at that time than my NEC was selling for. But then I did not buy another drive at that time anyway.
RAM disks are good for alot of things, but only if you can use them, most people can't.

Handyguy,

Not so, even BluRay is compatible with it. DVD-RAM is a small HD that you can write to 100,000 times. I have been using the same disk about 10 times a day for 15 months. There are plenty of DVD-RAM topics & you can easily edit anything you write on it on your PC.

Not true, only true if your equipment can read the disks! And I know what you mean, but DVD RAM is not a hard drive, it's a disk same as a -RW +RW or even CD RW, you need a drive that can read it.
Most people do not have Ram drives, none of mine read ram disks. Though they may be great if you do have Ram readers and burners. When I bought my Panny E50 I also bought ram disks, I had tons of -R already. Then I found I could only use the Ram disks in the E50, not my PC so they were useless and went back for a refund with the E50!
That was along time ago, maybe now I could find new firmware to make my DVD burners read/write ram too?


Chrisx

I am confused and I thought DVD-RAM is a double sided disc?

It can be single sided or a double sided I think. It is not a hard drive, it just sort of acts like one that you can write to it and erase it all the time. Just really another format basically like -RW or +RW but better if you can use it.
But most equipment does not work with ram disks as I mentioned already.
Not much point in having a recorder that will use a ram disk if that recorder is the only thing you own that will read a ram disk
Was my problem, Panny E50, and why I never opened my ram disks then. Why write a ram disk when I could never erase it, I could never erase it because it could not be read by any of the PC drives, so I could not copy to PC.
Now if I had a PC ram drive I would have had a good use for Ram disks

Another thing about the original post here.
How are you going to re-author and burn the DVD after editing?
I use Tmpgenc DVD Author, it does a ton of stuff very well! One of the things it does is copy a DVD to your hard drive for you
Provided it's not protected of course and yours are not. If your planning to just cut sections out, join videos together, make chapters and menus I suggest getting the trial version of Tmpgenc DVD Author. It's fully working for however many days, I think it was either 14 days or 30 days.
Just stick your DVD -R disk in your DVD drive, click add DVD files (or whatever it was called) and it gives an option to use them from the disk or copy to the hard drive
I always copy to hard drive for ALOT of reasons! Then edit all your stuff, create DVD files, burn with same program. Program has never failed me yet with anything, and I have done some strange odd things with it!
I don't use the add DVD files very often, though I use the program a ton for everything else.

[tag]

Then buy yourself a compatible Pioneer DVD/HD recorder having DVD-R and DVD-RW recording. I know this would cost ya money?

It would cost a LOT less money to keep the Panasonic recorder and buy a Pioneer DVR-107D (or A07XL) DVD writer.........around 80-85 bucks, reads RAM, problem solved.

[lordsmurf]

http://www.digitalfaq.com/edit/recorderedit/recorderedit.htm

Mostly text still, but that's the guide for this.

[HMFC]

Shoot theres a shedload of advice on this thread.

TY everyone for your advice. I need to sit down and read all of this througha nd see what works for me.

Thnak you for all the support people much apprecaited.

Cheers to all of you

[classfour]

Download TMPGenc DVD Author. It will use the DVD-Video
recorded on the DVD-R, saving chapter points (if wanted)
etc.

"Open DVD Video"

tick "save to hard drive" for faster editing.

Edit and author.

I use the same method, but use MPEG2VCR for more precise editing.

I've produced several 1 hour or more DVD videos of my home
movies for sharing this way.