napa dav 311 template

[sulfur]

i know there are a few people who like me have the napa dav311 vcd/mp3/cd player. i was wondering if you could play svcds on it. and if anyone has come up with the perfect template to enocde divx or wahtever to play on it perfectly.

[SatStorm]

No, with napa you can play only standard VCDs! Not even xVCDs (like mpeg 1 VBR)
For svcd better buy a cheap standalone or a DVD Video based on DVD Rom technology (apex, cyberhome, encore, amoisonic,yakamawa etc...)

[AntnyMD]

Can you play a VBR MPEG-1 on a Napa DAV provided the max bitrate is below 1123 or 1150? Since "constant bit rate" is actually "controlled bit rate" how does the Napa perform when the controlled bit rate accidentally falls beneath 1000 for example?

[sulfur]

hmm.. don't know. i really need someone to make a template so i can encode my vcds. i've been trying to get it but its hard.

[william_n]

I used Nero and any setting which Nero complains to violate the basic VCD format will not play well for NAPPA 311. My max bit rate is 1.15. So far all the VCR taping of music video, I am extremely happy with this 311. My current set up is VCR/DVD-->DV cam-->DV capture card-->AVI-->TMPGenc-->Mpeg1-->Nero-->VCD. I think this NAPPA 311 is very strict to "basic" VCD format, anything is slightly different will not play well.

I also burn my pictures JPEG to make slide show VCD thru Nero, I love this Nero's 5.0 feature. It will adjust the the pictures TV aspect ratio for you automatically before burning. I play this slide show VCD in my Sony 850 DVD, it play so great, the pictures looks whole lot nicer than in my PC (even my picture is less than 1M pixels). However, the Nappa 311 can NOT read this VCD at all, so confirm my statement above, still try to see how to work around this problem...

[AntnyMD]

william_n

Are you making PAL or NTSC VCDs for your Napa DAV 311?

[daveP]

I'm playing around with VCDImager at the moment and before a waste a whole load of time and cds I was wondering what works and what doesnt on the NAPA309, etc.

Here are my findings anyway, if anyone has anything to add then please do...

I have found that VCDs only consisting of sequence items don't support entry points. The napa just refuses to skip forward to the next entry point. What I havn't tested yet is whether entry points work if I make a playlist structure with a play item for each entry that explicitly refers to an entry point. This seems to work using the WinOnCD/Roxio VCD player, but I havn't tested it yet on my NAPA. Fingers crossed.

My NAPA also prefers it if I turn off "Detect scene changes" in TMPEGENC. This seems to create a nasty jumping effect on scene changes, as if the frames around the scene change were swapped over. Weird.

MPEG Audio-only VCDs, as produced by WinOnCD3.8PE don't work. They play far too fast. I don't think CDDA tracks on a VCD work either.

The VCDImager manual refers to something about jumping to random segments. I havn't tried this, but my guess is that it won't work. I've never heard of it before.

I quite like the NAPA though. The quality seems better than Windows Media Player, and it copes with high res stills well.


dave.

[daveP]

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I have found that VCDs only consisting of sequence items don't support entry points. The napa just refuses to skip forward to the next entry point. What I havn't tested yet is whether entry points work if I make a playlist structure with a play item for each entry that explicitly refers to an entry point.
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yep, it works.

Using the latest version of vcdimager's vcdxbuild, if I put the mpeg in the sequence area and add entry points, and then make a playlist structure in the pbc area where each playlist item points forward and backward to the next and previous playlist items, and the play item is the entry point, this works.

Only problem is you can't rewind back past a point that you are on.

It is still pretty good though.

[menacerock01]

Funny story, i tried to author a VBR VCD and i played it on my napa 311. It tries to play it as a CBR so it is constantly speeding up and slowing down. Very weird to watch. So yes it will play VBR just not correctly.