Files too big

[mjones]

I have 2 cd,s that are svcd mpeg2 and every time i try to burn them with
nero they are too large to burn,can anyone explain what i should do next.
I would like to watch this movie on my dvd player.

[teegee420]

Is there a reason why you can't use the SVCD compilation in Nero and burn each mpeg seperately(assuming each is no >800mb)?

[mjones]

Cd1 is 793mb and Cd2 is 742mb long and as i only have 700mb cd-r i was wondering if there was any way around this. I do have dvd+rw discs
but from what i have read these will not work for svcd.I am a newbie at all this and may be wrong.

[teegee420]

Use the SVCD compilation in Nero. Trust me, they'll fit. You can safely burn 795mb on a plain old 80minute/700mb cd-r. BUT, you have to author it properly. The SVCD compilation will do this for you.

[mjones]

Just tried your suggestion on cd1 and nero said it was too big so i tried cd2
and this was accepted and burned well. Size was was 655mb and 74.32 min long but when i played it in my dvd player it was exactly half the time
37.16 min. Can you shed any light on what is happening there and also any other suggestion for cd1. Thanks for the help so far.

[teegee420]

How big is the file for cd1? As for cd2, it might be the media or you could try burning at a slower speed. Try playing it in your PC to see if you have the same problem. Something definetely doesn't sound right. It might be a bad file.

Edit: I take that back about cd2. Are you sure the mpeg isn't just 37 minutes long? That looks like the correct length for the file size. How long does the clip play in Windows Media Player before burning it?

[spectroelectro]

Simpler solution: use ReJig or DVDShrink to squish down your MPEG-2
SVCD files by about 7%. They are then absolutely positively guaranteed to fit on a 700 meg CD-R.

[mjones]

Run cd1 and cd2 in wmp and total run time is 47.40mins for cd1, cd2 total run time 44.36 mins. The movie does play from start to finish. I burned cd2 at 16x so should i try it slower.
When trying to burn cd1 as you suggested, file size in nero becomes
700mb and 74.40 mins but says compilation too large.

[teegee420]

file size in nero becomes
700mb and 74.40 mins but says compilation too large.

Sounds like you have a 74 minute cd.

[mjones]

I have just burned cd2 in nero at 4x speed and this is now ok and plays in
both my Philips Dvdr 70 and my Philips Dvd player. Cd1 still says too big in Nero. Should i try as was suggested Dvd shrink.

[teegee420]

Again, I'm pretty certain that the reason why you can't burn cd1 is becaus you're using 650mb/74 minute cd's. To answer your question, DVD Shrink doesn't work on mpeg files but Rejig does(a very good suggestion by the way). When you start it up choose "File Mode". If my math is correct, a 90% compression ratio should shrink it small enough to fit on your disc.

[johns0]

Rejig will do the job,dvdshrink wont work on mpeg files,only authored dvd files and movie dvd`s.

[teegee420]

I forgot to mention that Rejig will only spit out a .m2v file, which is video only(no sound). What you'll have to do is use TMPGEnc to combine the new m2v with the audio from the original cd1 mpeg. To do this, open TMPGEnc, go to File>MPEG Tools>Simple Multiplex. Choose the m2v file as the video source and the original cd1 mpeg as the audio source, select a new output file name and try burning that one with Nero.

[mjones]

Ok here is the next problem. I used Rejig then Tmpgenc and the size has now come down to 710mb which i think will burn as instructed. I played the new mpeg in wmp and loose the last 7mins of audio.
At the end of multiplexing the following error came up,
2 s packets cause buffer underflow.
The mpeg might cause errors when played.

[teegee420]

Sorry dude, but I'm afraid I don't have a solution for you. I suggest you get some 80 minute cd's and burn the unaltered original mpeg.

[mjones]

I must have forgot to mention but i am using 80min cds.
I am off to bed now but thanks for all your help, i have already learned
a lot about this game just by everyones help on this forum.
Goodnight i will try again tomorrow.

[teegee420]

Fair enough, and you're welcome. You also never mentioned the size in megabytes of the cd1 mpeg. At any rate, good luck to you.

[jimmalenko]

Jonesy, I don't know how to tell you this, but you can't be using 80 minute CDs. People in the know, please bear with my explanation for any minor flaws. Anyway, here goes:

80 minute CDs can hold approximately 80:03 of audio or 800MB of movies given normal conditions (no overburn, etc.). So, even though your file could be 790MB, in VCD it would only be 79:00 (in VCD, 1 min of movie=10MB).This means that it will burn a 790MB movie file onto a 700MB CD without any problems at all. The 700MB restriction on these discs kicks in only when we are talking about raw data.

74 minute CDs can hold approximately 74:47 of audio or 748MB of movies given normal conditions (no overburn, etc.). So, even though your file could be 740MB, in VCD it would only be 74:00 (in VCD, 1 min of movie=10MB). This means that it will burn a 740MB movie file onto a 650MB CD without any problems at all. The 650MB kicks in only when we are talking about raw data.

This explains why your second file worked. It was 740MB. Therefore Nero let you burn it onto the CDs you have at the moment. Go to your local stockist and get some 80 minute CDs and I bet it will work first time using your original files.

[Alan69]

Ok some things to try.

First, do double check that these are really 80 minute CDs. I know you've said they are, but double check with something 3rd party because that is the type error you're getting.

Assuming that they are 80 minutes, you should be able to fit an 830 MB or so video on the CDs. Even if they're 80 minutes, Nero is acting as though they are only 74. See if there is some way to tell it they're 80, I've used Nero a bit but not that familiar.

Get VCDEasy. I've used both for doing these type CDs and VCDEasy is different and takes a little bit of learning to use, but works about ten times more reliably for VCD/SVCD. I since got a DVD drive and don't use it much now, but it was a breeze compared to getting Nero to really work well at the time, and likely still is.

Alan

[mjones]

I have now found somthing strange happening with my discs.
On putting discs into drive and opening up my computer this is what i see,
In my computer: 700mb/80min cd-r shows 648mb capacity and 648mb free.
In my computer: 800mb/90min cd-r shows 648mb capacity and 648mb free.
When i run these discs in B,s gold software and look at disc properties the
700mb/80min shows 719mb and the 800/90min shows 836mb.
It seems like my PC is only recognising 650/74min.
Please help

[teegee420]

How long have you been using this particular batch of cd's? Have you had any problem like this before with them? Do you have any different media to try?

[mjones]

Never had a problem with audio but i am new to the dvd side of things.
I have burned cd2 on same media. I have now burned cd1 on cd-r90
with my B,s gold software although it comes up with disc error on my
dvdr but plays on my dvd player.
Yet again thanks for all the help and comments.