CANT GET A BURNED DVD DISC TO PLAY on stand alone

[ann-angel.com]

Hello, first a small introduction. My name is Catalin and I am the webmaster of http://ann-angel.com. Recently I've wanted to start making compilations of Anna's videos on DVD to be sold to customers. I thought this would be easy, boy was I wrong. Ok, the run down. I own an I/O Magic DVD burner +/-. For media I have TDK DVD-R and Liguidvideo DVD+R, running a windows XP PC. My goal: To create a dvd complete with a menu, chapter selection, and slide show put to music. I edited my captured movie on premiere and exported the movie as a Microsoft DV Avi 720 by 480 at 29.97 fps. I made my first attempt using Ulead to author the disc. I was able to make a great disc with everything I wanted it to be. It even played on my PC, however when placed in a stand alone player it read no disc. So I tried again with the (-) and got the same result, no disc. The way I set up the disc was for an intorductory image to come up before the menu with copyright info, then menu comes up with chapter select. So apparently Ulead was no good. I tried Adobe which I have no patience to sit and figure out how to make a menu from scratch, so I went on to the one people seem to like...TMPGEnc...I imported my files from the DVD I made previously (the chapters) Then I created a menu and hit burn. Seemed great till the DVD was finished and the program didn't even place the menu there, it just played the movie straight. Not only that but it STILL DIDNT PLAY in my home DVD, only on my computer. What is going on here? What Am I doing wrong??? I need help ASAP! PLEASE! Thanks.

[jtommyj]

Wow - That girl is HOT..

But anyway, correct me if I'm wrong but you are using and trying to burn the DV to a DVD disc without first converting to MPEG-2 ?
That could be the reason it isn't playing on the DVD player (set-top) but is playing on the computer.
If you are converting to MPEG-2 with Ulead or another program write back and we'll go from there.

Another suggestion and money saver... Get some +RW or -RW discs to experiment on. My experience has been that the RW discs are more compatible with more set-top players.

PS- Tell Anna that my wife and I ran into Jenna Jameson in a club in PGH and lived out Anna's fantasy about 5 years ago.

[disturbed1]

What DVD Player do you have. It's rare, but your DVD Player may not playback recorded DVDs.

Since you are making a comercial product, perhaps you should contract an outside source.

There are many people that will take your footage, edit, encode, author, then export to dlt tape. With that dlt tape you can ship it to a replication house and get pressed (comercial) DVDs.

The going cost for pressed dvds is about $1-$2 per 1000. Plus the cost from the edit/authoring which depends on the complexity of the project (# of menus motion or not, photo slide shows etc....) the length of the footage and the quality of original vs. expected output quality.

If you'd rather tackle it on your own, start out small, and read some of the guides to the left. Investing in a few DVD-RWs will help out too.

If your DVD player doesn't playback recorded media (check the DVD Players link on the left), pick up any $30 DVD player to get you by for now.

[mastersmurfie]

What DVD Player do you have. It's rare, but your DVD Player may not playback recorded DVDs.

interesting...my DVD player will NOT play DVDs that are less than 4GB in size (Philips DVD 711) and I cannot get +R or +RW to play in it...only -

maybe this is the problem?

also...might I suggest DVD-Lab as the authoring tool? I prefer it over TMPGencDVD

and yes...invest in a few DVD+/-RW...and test first...

Just a thought

mastersmurfie

[bottle-necked]

It sound like that menu problem in Tmpgenc DVD Author is because you didn't set the "First Play Action" to "Display Main Menu", it was probably set to "Play All Tracks" which will bypass the menu and start playing the main movie first. Easily fixed on the menu creation page - top right box. Also check over "Display Menu Settings" and set it up properly. That program just defaults that way I think.

I also agree that you player may not play home made disks. Try RW and a friends player.

Good luck.

[disturbed1]

my DVD player will NOT play DVDs that are less than 4GB in size (Philips DVD 711) and I cannot get +R or +RW to play in it...only -

maybe this is the problem?

mastersmurfie

Same with my Philips FW5. Doesn't like Reel DVD authored discs, nor DVDShrink.

The size has to be at least 2,000,000 sectors (approx. 4gb).

The older Toshiba's, and a handfull of old Sony's are this way too.

[ann-angel.com]

Hey guys, first let me say thanks for all the responses. I actually have tried quite a few dvd players to play the disc in including my playstation 2. The length of the dvd is only 30 minutes and way less than the dvd full capacity so that shouldn't be a problem. I really want to tackle this on my own because it is something that I want to know since I will be starting my own production company soon, so all your help is appreciated. I don't care about spending money to get a program that would do it as long as I KNOW it will work. I've already wasted some $$ trying to get it done. So if anyone could suggest something that WILL work and do what I want it to that would be really great. Also, I was under the impression that Ulead changed the format of the movie to mpeg-2 by itself before putting it to disc. If not what other software should I use to do it? Again, thanks so much.

[lordsmurf]

Hello, first a small introduction. My name is Catalin and I am the webmaster of http://ann-angel.com

This is as far as I got.

This is not on topic, but I see it says in there she one day hopes to be in Playboy. Well, if that's the case, she needs to re-evaluate the work she does now. It's a bit too dirty for Playboy, they try to always get new talent with a somewhat wholesome or at least more-innocent-than-porn past. Not trying to be mean, but telling you what I know first-hand.

You probably need to spend some time reading the guides here concerning the video errors.

Good luck. Your videos look more entertaining than mine. :P

[ann-angel.com]

Dude, Smurf, you're right that's not the topic and I'd rather not change it at the moment, however, just for the record...Anna doesn't even do nude, kind of silly for you to judge her as having a porn past. Look at the website better. Ou site is much more "wholesome" than playboy itself, and what playboy doesn't allow is hardcore.....do you see hardcore on my site? Please let's stick to the topic at hand.

[Kolosus]

This may sound very simpleton at this point, but it's a problem I've had in the past, and could apply here. Might I suggest you invest in some high quality media both r and rw for starters. My personal preference is Taiyo Yuden, but this site also has a rundown of media and what the good folks on here think of different brands quality, reliability, and compatibility.

Next, might I suggest that you try something simple to start with such as a simple clip and basic play menu. See if that will work in your player first. If it does, then add more content, one step at a time to see if there are problems in the authoring process somewhere. A process of elimination if you will to see if maybe there is a feature you are including that you're player does not like.

Finally, if nothing works, look to your writer. I bought a cheap writer for my first and that was my big mistake. I now use a plextor 708a and have had great success with it. Although I have found that it seems to dislike TDK's. But will burn just about anything else you throw at it.

Good luck, and hope this helps.

[Kolosus]

An afterthought:

Problems such as you have can be very frustrating. Just remember that they can be just as frustrating for someone else to try and diagnose via a forum. There are some very experienced gentleman frequenting this site.
I have learned much from them. If they, or I have not hit the proverbial "nail on the head" just yet. Don't give up on them or your project. Have patience, this is not a perfect science, it's just exacting, and at times, taxing. In fact, please share the resolution of this problem with us so that we can all learn from it and have that knowledge to share with someone else who may have this problem down the line.

[ann-angel.com]

AAAAAH!!! SO manny different types.....so many different styles!!! What did I get myself into? Why couldn't this be as easy as making a dman VHS. Damn DVD companies and makers!! LOL

Ok, how about we go about this from th beginning....since I have tried to eliminate my headache by one step at a time removing things from the dvd. It couldn't be more basic than a 30 min dvd with just one clip not even a menu. Just pop in and play. NOT!!! Damn, nothing seems to work. How do the pros do it? How do the porn companies do it so every damn cd plays most of the time other than sometimes, regional encoding? Lets say I wasn't having the problem. What is the sure fire way of developing a dvd after I edit the clip. (I have premiere 6.0 and Avid) Maybe if I know the exact steps and what are the best programs to use for what, I can figure out where I went wrong before. So here I am...starting from scratch.

THANK YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Much appreciated! I can't wait to post the solution to this!

[macleod]

From review of the post, It is a little difficult to say that the DVD is bad, since you said that you attempted to play it in a number of dvd players (unlikely ALL of them didnt play the dvd media).

Your software player (ie computer) is VERY forgiving when it comes to playing dvd stuff, so you cannot say for certain that it burned correctly.

I read in the post that you dont mind spening $$$ for programs, etc. I have done captures and learned the entire process and unless you want to spend countless hours in front of a computer learning this, tweeking that, etc., my BEST recommendation would be to purchase a standalone dvd recorder to capture your clips (although it sounds like your footage is DV and not VHS).

If that is not the direction you would want to go, I would recommend using an application like dvd2svcd to convert your DV to DVD quality. This "application", used with an encoder like TMPGENC or CCE, pretty well automates the process of going from your source to DVD and does a lot of the "thinking" for you.

Could you provide some additional information on the specs of your DV input and DVD output:

DV - resolution, bit rate, audio, etc.
DVD - confirm IFO,BUG,VOB files

When I use to do conversions the old fashioned way, I would get my input and convert to nonstandard CVD (352x480 480mhz audio, 4000kps) and then author using either Movie Factory 2 or TMPGENC DVD Author. They create simple menus, which is more than enough for my home movies.

I reread the initial post and it sounds like it should play on the player(the applications should make the dvd structure so that it plays correctly). Another possibility is the media OR the burner. Players are sometimes finicky about one or the other. I have no experience with your burner, but sometimes those cheaper burners dont produce quality burns. Cheap media may also have a problem.

Still another possibility is what is occuring while you are doing the burn. I have seen people that do a burn and everything is OK, but it doesnt play. Turns out, they were playing a game or something during the burn process and although all looked OK, it actually failed. Another possibility would be the way the burner is oriented in the computer (master/slave settings) and also is the burner set to DMA and not PIO.

My final rambling thought would be for you to try this (on a rw): burn just the video that isn't playing as a movie using whichever software you are comfortable with and see if that plays. If that is good, then it will take care of a few possibilities. Then, try to add the menu/intro picture or whatever and see if that works. Based on what you have to work with, that may be the best way to figure out what the problem is.

Please post back with the results.

[macleod]

I read your reply after my post. It REALLY sounds like one of the following possibilities:

1) not creating the correct DVD structure from the source ( a lot of geek stuff like GOP settings, etc.)
2)bad media
3) bad burner
4) orientation in the computer/burner settings

Have you used the burner to make backups of movies? If so, do THOSE play OK in the dvd players?

[akbor75]

i have recently produced a short dvd movie for a collegue who left. it had an intro, menus with music etc. it played on all dvd players of the people who watched it.
so if you send me your movies i will create the dvd for you! :)
for free if you give me good stuff.

[Kolosus]

Catalin,

Too bad I don't have about a 30 second sample of the video you're trying to work with. That would answer a lot of questions real fast. Then we could be more specific, instead of throwing mud against the wall.

[dcsos]

I edited my captured movie on premiere and exported the movie as a Microsoft DV Avi 720 by 480 at 29.97 fps. I made my first attempt using Ulead to author the disc. I was able to make a great disc with everything I wanted it to be. It even played on my PC, however when placed in a stand alone player it read no disc.

There is nothing wrong with this
this disc you made is fine! It just slighly is incompatible with your two player (try it in circuit city anyd you'll find one that accepts it I believe)
ITS THE BURNING PROCESS..
Please make ULEAD build the project to HARD DRIVE folder instead of going right to your burner

then , making sure your DVD burning program is NERO 6.3xx or higher
using the DVD VIDEO mode of BURN, grab all files within the ULEAD
exported VIDEO_TS folder by selecting ALL and place them in the EXISTING
VIDEO_TS folder in the NERO DVD VIDEO BURN you are starting
burn to that TAIYO YUDEN or other qulity disc...and success

you go girls

[haloblack]

Since you are making a comercial product, perhaps you should contract an outside source. The going cost for pressed dvds is about $1-$2 per 1000.

I absolutely agree. Because I can't imagine this...

It even played on my PC, however when placed in a stand alone player it read no disc.

There is nothing wrong with this
this disc you made is fine! It just slighly is incompatible with your two player

...being something that a paying customer wants to hear. Don't forget, you're dealing with hobbyists on this board. We don't mind the glitches and weirdness because we know they come with the territory. If someone gives you $29.95 for a DVD, "slight incompatibility" = a lost sale, a lot of bad word of mouth, and a ticked-off customer who's going to upload your disc to the net just because you made him mad. What's your time worth? In the time it would take to satisfy all the customers who have "slight incompatibility" you could make a whole new DVD, get it replicated, and make followup sales. I admire the hell out of you for being a DIY kind of girl, but I think the smart business move would be to go pro. Framerates and encoding can be fixed, but bad reputations tend to stay that way.

[akbor75]

i can only burn working dvdrw directly from dvdlab, dvdr doesn't work that way. i have to create an image and burn that.

[Noek]

just a small fyi, my father has two JVC standalones that are picky as hell. I burned some captured DV video mpg2 and it played no problem. I then created a slideshow of digital photos, using both linear pcm and mpg1 layer 2 and neither would play it. This is using the same media and same program to encode and copy. Go figure. Hope you have better luck, but it seems that some units are just more finicky than others.

I have 2 portable DVd players that play everything I throw at them too. *shrug*