.WMV's with License

[Dude_Son]

ok i have some vids that I downloaded and wanted to burn to dvd, I downloaded these files legaly from a pay site and I still have the password for the license when I try to play them, but I was wanting to burn these files to a dvd and nothing will let me. the only program that recognizes these files is Windows Media Player. how can I get TMPGENC to recognize these? there must be something I can do. please help!!!

[Cobra]

Hmmmm... I'm not sure if you should (legally) be doing this. There must be a reason that they're stopping you from copying to DVD.

I'll tell you a way around this that might work, but if you're breaking the law then don't bother.

Open the file up in VirtualDub and frameserve to TMPGEnc. VirtualDub opens just about anything up.

CobraDMX

[BJ_M]

vdub will not open WMV files that have DRM keys .. only media player ..

[au7usa]

GraphEdit

[eats**t&die]

Even Graphedit will not render this file if it is a DRM (Digital Rights Management) .wmv which it sounds like it is. Like BJ_M said only Windows Media Player can open these because it needs to aquire a liscense from the owner or supplier of the movie before it can play. The only thing i can suggest is using a program to capture streaming video, as you said you have the liscense and can play it in WMP. Not sure if this will work though. Good Luck

[au7usa]

What if he opened the file in Media Player, and while it was still open, try to render it with GraphEdit? Will DRM stay active for a currently open file?

Have you tried it?

[mazinz]

i have tried all of these (and more) methods to convert a drm protected wmv(or even asf) file. In fact just this question alone (which i posted a while ago) resulted in my one "warning" (which i still feel was completely unjust).

At anyrate drm has been very hard to crack and so far no one has made anything that will do such. Your best bet is if you have a video card. As it is playing, have the signal run out of your card and into a vcr and record it that way.

Screen capture apps do work but regardless of how fast your pc is, they just do not do that good of a job (especially if it's like a 90min movie).

Their was one thing i did find out though. I Was able to view the stream while offline--kind of. I opened up windows media player, had the stream renew the license, and then hit pause. Upon doing so you can sign offline and then view it. This helped because my pc could then dedicate it's resources to running the signal out of my video card and not having to worry about draining anything because of my firewall, anti-virus, etc that was running while i was online.

[au7usa]

A while back i went looking for Nic's Xvid, and found a version of Windows Media 9 Redist that Nic had disabled DRM.

Not two minutes ago i downloaded a file from Microsoft that refuses to play in Windows Media Player 6.4, but after Re-Muxing to Matroska in GraphEdit, the file plays just fine. (I left the compression as-is)

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/democenter/9series/avquality/wmastddef51/racecars.wmv

How can i tell if this is DRM protected withou installing Windows Media Player 9?

[au7usa]

Ok, just loaded the "racecars.mkv" into TMPGEnc and converted to MPEG.

Will DRM always ask for a password? The WMV format is obviously No-Problem, so it must be something i'm not seeing!

Can someone tell me where i can find a DRM protected file?

[mazinz]

usually your best bet is to try and encode the file (say with tmpg, etc). If it cannot encode the file (it tells you it cannot do it) or you get a straight black screen (such as with asf tools), it is a safe way of telling you that the file probably has drm protection.

[mazinz]

drm will not ask you for a password but usually ask you to go online so it can verify it's license key. If you want ones that have drm, try going to those sites where you can "rent" a film online for like 48hours. These files do have the drm. I use to know a few sites (of course none of them come to mind right now), but go to google.com and try "online rental"

[BJ_M]

sample DRM http://168.156.127.12/samplevodsite/qmrsampledrm.wmv

When prompted:

Enter User Name: qmr
Enter Password: qmrpassword

[au7usa]

Ok, i know what it doesn't work on my PC - NO DRM.

Would someone win WinMedia Player 9 care to "Render URL" with GraphEdit to see if password dialog comes up?

[au7usa]

Update....

I downloaded the qmrsampledrm.wmv and opened with hex editor.

Inside i fould the location of the license involved:
http://168.156.127.12/drm/qmr.aspx

I downloaded the "qmr.aspx" file and stored locally in: C:\Temp\drm.

I decided to redirect the address form the WMV header to local machine: http://127.0.0.1/Temp/drm/qmr.aspx

I'm seeing some progress, but i've noticed VBasic code inside, and am wondering if "Norton Script Blocker" is preventing further advance.

Do i need scripting enabled to make DRM work.

I think i'll try to plug the user name and password into "qmr.aspx"

(It's not breaking and entering if you use a key!)

[au7usa]

Apparently, they know when a file has been tampered with. The file refuses to play even after following through.

I get the message "This file has been tampered with!"

I' sure there is still a way to simulate the process, anyone else care to try?

[Dude_Son]

thank u so much for all the replies! I cant belive this is so tuff. I thought it would be somethin easy. man I would really like to backup these files. I know its possible cause Ive seen the same type of files on kazaa and they dont have the license on them so I know its possible. but how?

[indolikaa]

If you downloaded any file with DRM...

When you accept the download, you may also be accepting an EULA that prevents you from archiving or copying the material to another medium. Since you own the DRM Key, your backup is the key, which may be the ability to download the same material again, although I doubt it. Check the site from which you downloaded and see if you agreed to such a restriction.

If you can post something that shows backing up the material is not a distinct violation of your DRM agreement, I'd suspect you'll get a real detailed answer to your dilemma.

CYA!

[au7usa]

License, Shmicense!