Communication Faliure

[CeruleanSam]

hi there, i just brought a Pioneer 106D writer , and i use Nero 6 as my software.

i am just trying burn a data DvD and it gets to about 30% in and then stops and says Communication Faliure , i have tried this number of times and same result. not always at the same pecentage, any ideas why this is happening, i am using DvD-R , it burns Cds aboustley fine,

So was wondering if any1 knew where my problem lives, any help with be very grateful, Cheers

[cooljoe666]

Don't know but Nero 6 is buggy as heck. I went back to Nero 5. Also if you are using an OS other than the factory installed one you could have read problems, this happened when I wiped out Window ME and installed Win2k, it takes longer to read the disc but it works.

[CeruleanSam]

thing is it aint just Nero, i tried Burnatonce and got the following Error :

Sense Bytes: 70 00 04 00 D3 00 02 0E 26 01 30 E6 08 01
Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x08 Qual 0x01 (logical unit communication time-out) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 13828098 (not valid)
cmd finished after 2.028s timeout 200s
A write error occured.
Please properly read the error message above.

write track data: error after 771760128 bytes
Writing time: 179.253s
Average write speed 138.7x.
Min drive buffer fill was 50%
Fixating...
Fixating time: 0.012s
fifo had 12844 puts and 12157 gets.
fifo was 0 times empty and 930 times full, min fill was 96%.

Similar Errors with other Writing software

[Bodene]

Try:

Updating the firmware on your writer.

Writing at a different speed

Cleaning the disc you are writing to

Using an RW disc

Also.....is your writer on the same IDE as the HD? If it is, it can cause this type of problem. Both drives will argue about whose turn it is and then Nero or any burning software can wig out on ya. Are you sure you have the master/slave setting on the back of your writer set correctly? Are you sure that all cables are secured properly? The *communication* failure is what sticks in my mind as being very odd.

I'd bet u a buck there is some small detail that's tossing a wrench into the whole shabang. Just find that tiny issue and you'll be back on track.

[coblck]

Hi there i also have this problem, i have my pioneer on its on ide channel and all the usual stuff, i also use Nero 6.3 and get this problem with both dvd-r and dvd+r's, in total i have wasted about 20 discs was doing my head in so installed recordnow max 4.5 and never had a coaster yet about 25 good ones with 106d. I still wasn,t happy so contacted pioneer and they blamed my media i was using sh*tty Princo media so i changed to recomended ones and tried nero again and problem has not returned. I Really believe it is Nero at fault but cant prove it. I bought LG Gsa-4040b and installed as well as my 106d and have never looked back what a burner brillant really picky with media but it loves Riteks G04 so will stick with that for the moment. Will stick with pioneer in case rumours of dual layer burning with firmware update are true. I probably didnt help you im sorry but only can advise to use best media you can afford best of luck really mean it pisses you off when disc fails.

[CeruleanSam]

on same IDE cable as my dvd drive, set to slave , tried using different speeds , different media, +Rw dont work in the drive for some reason. I eventually got 1 to burn last nite, i dont know if that was a fluke or problem solved but i wasted about 15 dics already. Might try that software that geezer said, but any other ideas will be very grateful

[carrspaints]

It appears no one really has a solution to this problem. I too am having some issues.

I have a NEC 1300A writer and have been using Nero with Bulkpaq Orange media (x4) without a single coaster for several months. I then upgraded the NEC firmware to version 109, which flashed fine. Computer detects my writer as a NEC 1300a.

However, ever since uprading, I get a "SCSI/ATAPI Write Error" shortly after the burn starts. The disc is now a useless coaster. But when I write to Imation DVD+RW discs (x2.4), the disc burns fine. I have tried burning the Bulkpaq media at 2x & 4x speeds but get coasters every single time. And it is not the batch. I just ordered in some more Bulkpaqs, same problem.

If this is a communication error to do with the writer and SCSI/ATAPI settings or drivers, why then does Nero burn DVD+R quite fine? I have moved back to my old NEC firmware (108) but still get the same coaster problem. It can't be a firmware issue, as I am now using the original firmware that I have used to burn over 200 discs without a single coaster.

If anyone has an answer to this one, I will be very grateful indeed.

[CeruleanSam]

aboustly stupid, out of a bulk of 25 dics , i got 1 burnt, dont know how why just didnt get this Communication problem , i am going give pioneer a call and see what they suggest , will report back once this is done

[dausone]

Ahhh... looks like I have found my group of people:
5 bad discs out of 23 so far!!?? Which isnt as bad as most on this thread... From the looks of the .log file I am guessing it is a media issue since the error occurs while writing tracks?? I may be wayyy off...

Below is my .log file for Nero...
Thanks for the help guys.
Matt.

Ritek g04 4x
Pioneer 106D
Nero 6
Windows 2000

============================================
Log date: Tue Jan 20 19:57:06 2004

============================================

Project: UNDEFINED

============================================

Using ImgTool Version 1.1.0

Can't open INI file (F:\program files\encoders\ImgTool Burn\ImgTool.ini),
using default settings...
Opening NeroAPI.DLL
Nero API version 6.0.0.15
Initialization of the NeroAPI successful.
Found the following devices:
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D
Image Recorder
=========================================
Starting Burn Process...
=========================================
...burn on "PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D"
Using ISO Flags: ISO UDF Realloc
Number Of Tracks: 0
==============================
try to building DVD ISO Tree...
==============================
Start path: "H:\gangs2"
AUDIO_TS dir is not present, try to create one...
VIDEO_TS dir is not present, try to create one...
==============================
building VIDEO_TS Tree...
==============================
Adding VIDEO_TS.IFO
File: "VIDEO_TS.VOB" doesn't exist ==> create ISO without it!
Adding VIDEO_TS.BUP
Adding VTS_01_0.IFO
Adding VTS_01_1.VOB
Adding VTS_01_2.VOB
Adding VTS_01_3.VOB
Adding VTS_01_4.VOB
Adding VTS_01_5.VOB
Adding VTS_01_0.BUP
Writing on DVD Media...
Using Speed: 4.0x (5540kB/s)
===> DVD-Video files reallocation started
===> DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)
===> DVD-Video files sorted
=> Reading directories
=> Creating directories
=> Finishing
=> Reading directories
=> Creating directories
=> Checking discs
=> Writing to cache
===> Caching of files started
===> Caching of files completed
=> Writing to disc
===> Burn process started at 4x (5,520 KB/s)
=> Writing Lead-in
=> Writing tracks
===> Communication failure
===> Burn process failed at 4x (5,520 KB/s)

Windows 2000 5.0
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=45056 bytes, created 5/6/2002 10:01:14 AM
ahead WinASPI: File 'F:\program files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 6/17/2003 5:25:04 AM
Nero API version: 6.0.0.15
Using interface version: 6.0.0.0
Installed in: F:\program files\Ahead\Nero\
Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom
Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D>Version: 1.07 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.0.0.15
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2000kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST380021A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : 24X10X40 CD-RW atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : LITEON DVD-ROM LTD163D atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
24X10X40 CD-RW E: CDRom0
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D I: CDRom1
LITEON DVD-ROM LTD163D K: CDRom2
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523760kB)
Free physical memory: 360MB (369476kB)
Memory in use : 29
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

20.1.2004
NeroAPI
7:48:56 PM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 238
DVD-Video files reallocation started

7:48:56 PM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 238
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

7:48:56 PM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 238
DVD-Video files sorted

7:48:56 PM #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

7:48:56 PM #5 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 127
Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D running

7:48:56 PM #6 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3861
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:48:56 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3861
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:48:56 PM #8 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3169
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

7:48:56 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 230
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45)
Last address to be written: 2210751 (491:16.51)

7:48:56 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 235
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

7:48:56 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1878
Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: RITEKG - 04
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

7:48:56 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 393
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

7:48:56 PM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 769
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2210752 (2210752) = #2210752/491:16.52
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2210752 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D]
--------------------------------------------------------------

7:48:56 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 938
Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 307200 4527927296, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
-150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
-150 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
2210752 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

7:48:56 PM #15 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 238
Caching of files started

7:48:56 PM #16 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 238
Caching of files completed

7:48:56 PM #17 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 238
Burn process started at 4x (5,520 KB/s)

7:48:57 PM #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2136
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

7:48:57 PM #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1479
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

7:48:57 PM #20 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 19000
Set BUFE: supported -> ON

7:48:57 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1594
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: No

7:48:57 PM #22 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7909
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: 10.08 Mbps (2 h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Media Specific:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

7:48:58 PM #23 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 318
19:48:58.323 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D : Queue again later (Intervall : 11msec)

7:55:17 PM #24 SCSI -1024 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1411
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x097A0000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x04 (KEY_HARDWARE_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x08
Sense Qual: 0x01
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x0E 0xB5 0xE0 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x93 0x00 0x02 0x0E
0x26 0x01 0x30 0xE6 0x08 0x01

7:55:17 PM #25 CDR -1024 File Writer.cpp, Line 335
Communication failure

7:55:17 PM #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

7:55:17 PM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader

7:55:17 PM #28 Phase 38 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 238
Burn process failed at 4x (5,520 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\CDR4_2K.SYS': Ver=2.5 (089), size=52720 bytes, created 3/2/2001 8:55:54 PM
File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=1.00 (1030), size=22585 bytes, created 3/2/2001 8:55:54 PM
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=17005 bytes, created 5/6/2002 10:01:08 AM

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


BurnCD() : burn failed
Logfile saved at: Tue Jan 20 19:57:06 2004

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[dausone]

So in a previous post someone suggested to me that I:
Install ForceASPI and update to Nero 6302

I did - and still I get the communication error and I am using a new pack of dvd-r's from a different distribution company.. same brand.. Ritek G04..

anyone out there that has resolved this problem??

Thanks

[coblck]

Alright boys have just RMA ed my pioneer usualess burner, will let you know how i get on if they send a replacement, i was using verbatims dvd-r's and still getting communication error and these discs are reommended by pioneer so its time it went back. I also have LG 4040b burner and when installed into same ide connector and power supply this burns eveytime, which leads me to think drive is goosed.

[dausone]

Great coblck... I just contacted Pioneer about this as well.. got my RMA number but am waiting for your virdict before I send it out. The suggestions made by Pioneer tech. was the same as recommended on this board...

1. Check if IDE cables are connected properly... DVD-RW drive should not be connected to the same IDE as the HD. Also check slave master settings.
2. Enable DMA on your drive
3. Update drivers/firmware, burning software (according to Pionner there may be problems with using Roxio or Toast burning softwares with this drive and older IDE cables - older motherboards)

Since I have already done all these they gave me an RMA #... no worries though since the warranty on this drive is 1 year from the date of purchase.

[coblck]

still no news on rma pioneer drive i have a funny feeling they will say its ok and still blame the media, i suugest you send your back as well and see how you get on with it i will keep you posted my email is coblck@aol.com

[Bodene]

It appears no one really has a solution to this problem. I too am having some issues.

To carrspaints:
Gawd how I hate seeing posts like this. When I read this, it tells me that you don't appreciate the time people take to try and offer solutions to problems. No-one gets paid to help folks dude. Those who reply do it out of kindness. You saying that is a bit shitty IMO.

In most cases, there is no easily identifiable solution. For just about any issue there can be a myriad of possible causes. All anyone can do is suggest things to try.

[coblck]

bodene you are a right prat eh

[gravyonmychin]

Had this problem, ended up doing a complete re-install of xp to get it to work, not a single problem since.

[dausone]

Had this problem, ended up doing a complete re-install of xp to get it to work, not a single problem since.

I dont know about going to that extreme... damn...

coblck what os are you running?... Im using win2000 server

[gravyonmychin]

Picked it up off this site ..hey who cares..it worked

[coblck]

dausone mate running xp home edition waiting on news as i RMAed the drive will keep you posted

[coblck]

Finally recieved news on my Dud 106d, it was a faulty unit i had, so if anyone bought it with manufacturing date of October 03 may think returning it MAYBE. By the way the retailer had no 106d in stock and sent 107d instead (8X Version) and seems to be burning ok (no 8X disc to really try it out). Well hope that is the end of my probs. Well good luck to all yous really mean that.

Will keep posted to this forum for any info

[dausone]

Thats good news coblck.. an 8x replacement.. nice!! Im sure I wont be so lucky.. that is if it is my drive.. sending it in a couple weeks when the turnaround time is a little quicker.