Self Destructing DVD's come to a store near you.

[bugster]

I think this technology has been discussed here before, but now it looks like it will be available on store shelves shortly.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/31718.html

[painkiller]

And I'm supposed to buy these because ........?
1) I'd forgotten what I bought 3 days ago?
2) I make an endless supply of moolah?
3) I seriously care about Disney making/taking more money?
4) er, uh, there's another reason?




(Seriously, when I buy product - I expect to use it again and again - on into the future. Unless, of course, I knew it to be a consumable from day 1.)

[bugster]

Hmm, just had an interesting thought

If these are sold for around the price of a rental, or even just well below normal retail, and 'fair use' allows you to make a personal backup copy of any media you own, well............

[JimJohnD]

Just a BAD IDEA all the way around. Unless you get kickbacks from your local landfill.

[thayne]

Just what landfills need a few billion plastic disks a year...

[Styro]

Just like Bugster alluded to - buy the disc, make an archival copy, when the original expires make another archival copy (in case the primary goes bad). Only good thing to come out of this is maybe you can start a business making archival copies for other people (provided they give you an original to copy and you have some damn good lawyer on retainer).

- Styro

[nkuperw]

Other problems is that the rental business relies A LOT on late fees and having a disposable disc will kill their revenue, not to mention, who's going to "buy" a piece of disposable crap? when I buy a movie, I keep it for later viewing.

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Other problems is that the rental business relies A LOT on late fees and having a disposable disc will kill their revenue, not to mention, who's going to "buy" a piece of disposable crap? when I buy a movie, I keep it for later viewing.

When you "rent" a movie do you keep it for later viewing?

[musher70]

what ever have to that commercial dvd format
called "divx", you know, good for 48 hrs for $4....
think you can still get those Zenith divx/dvd
players on Ebay, REALLY CHEAP>>>(:

[nkuperw]

I'll keep it for a later viewing (oeuf corse), but I'm terrible on returing it back on time...that's why i've stopped renting from movie stores. I either buy them (generally at the average of 16 bucks a title) or use the netflix thingy. In either case, I have it forever and I can leave it out in the air and not have to worry about oxidation

[jonas more]

Legally backing up movies at the cost of a rental and a DVD+R... I can hardly wait!!!

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what ever have to that commercial dvd format
called "divx", you know, good for 48 hrs for $4....
think you can still get those Zenith divx/dvd
players on Ebay, REALLY CHEAP>>>(:

This format does not require a special DVD player. It will play on all.

So much for Ebay.

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Legally backing up movies at the cost of a rental and a DVD+R... I can hardly wait!!!

Netflix, Walmart. Blockbuster, DISNEY etc. The question here is "legally". Can't do any of it.

The descruction method is nothing more than a no return rental. Period end of story. IT'S A RENTAL. NOT A PURCHASE.

[handyguy]

They can recycle old cds & dvds. I think they make roads with them.

[The village idiot]

I just want to see one after it expires!. It will be worth the cost once or twice to... ummm... play with it.

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My concern is that the entire video and film industry moves to this format - or something similiar. Huge dollars at stake - billions. And the MPPA is attempting to protect themselves perhaps through Disney. It's WAY to easy for the masses run DVDdecrypter (or others) and beat them.

I bet there will be no way to extract digitally - perhaps but just a guess. This format is a test.

The music industry is suffering and most of the revenue gains are from live performances. The movie industry does not have this option.

[jonas more]

Legally backing up movies at the cost of a rental and a DVD+R... I can hardly wait!!!

Netflix, Walmart. Blockbuster, DISNEY etc. The question here is "legally". Can't do any of it.

The descruction method is nothing more than a no return rental. Period end of story. IT'S A RENTAL. NOT A PURCHASE.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/31718.html

"If Flexplay has its way, rental and retail DVDs will be offered on a new type of disc the company plans to launch next month. The disc, dubbed EZ-D, is built of special plastics that become opaque when exposed to the air. Sold in air-tight packages, consumers have 48 hours to watch the movie before the DVD becomes a coaster."

Note the words RENTAL AND RETAIL

[thayne]

I bet there will be no way to extract digitally - perhaps but just a guess. This format is a test.

If that were true it wouldn't work on any DVD player out there. It's the same format, the disk just oxidzes after a day or so to where the laser can't read it anymore. And as for the masses using DVDdecryptor, please. The masses can't even program their VCR let alone comprehend ripping and transcoding a DVD

[MOVIEGEEK]

This topic has been discussed several times in this forum and I still think it is a stupid idea,here's why:
1.Plastic takes 500+years to decompose,environmental nightmare.
2.If the packaging is torn during transit to store the disk will be useless,unhappy customers.
3.The manufacturer of the disk(GE)hasn't tested the disc at large to see if oxidized coating will be safe for DVD players or humans,possible lawsuits.
4.A customer could watch the movie and after 48 hours complain to store that the disk was unwatchable,store loss.

[Laddydaddy]

Since rental establishments like Blockbuster and Hollywood Video depend on renting the same DVD over and over, they will have to stock a huge inventory of these discs to meet customer demands. One disc per customer with these babies.

[thayne]

Here is the Flexplay FAQ:

http://www.flexplay.com/faq.html

I wouldn't really have a problem with it aside from the fact that most people won't recycle the things and they will just collect in landfills along side all the aol disks. I like the idea of a scratch-free rental!!! LOL

[thayne]

Since rental establishments like Blockbuster and Hollywood Video depend on renting the same DVD over and over, they will have to stock a huge inventory of these discs to meet customer demands. One disc per customer with these babies.

If this flies, those places are done. You will see these in Walmart, 7-11, Costco, Lowes, McDonalds, you'll get one free with a pizza order, you name it. The video store will be gone, like the old Drive-in theater....

[hotch]

what if there were a deposit-- say, 50 cents a disc? you can return it whenever (IE-- after you have 100 of em laying around) and get your 50 cents back... if a few get thrown away, it's no worse than any of the other disposable plastics we use once every day (soda bottles, tic tac boxes, wrappers, etc etc)

[thayne]

I don't know where you live, but around here I don't know anyone who returns soda bottles/cans. Deposits don't work.

They need to have a pre-paid envalope that comes with it so you can just slip the disk in and drop it in the mail, still I bet half the people out there would just throw them away anyway.

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This topic has been discussed several times in this forum and I still think it is a stupid idea,here's why:
1.Plastic takes 500+years to decompose,environmental nightmare.
2.If the packaging is torn during transit to store the disk will be useless,unhappy customers.
3.The manufacturer of the disk(GE)hasn't tested the disc at large to see if oxidized coating will be safe for DVD players or humans,possible lawsuits.
4.A customer could watch the movie and after 48 hours complain to store that the disk was unwatchable,store loss.

I'm confused. Are you stating facts or opinions?

If fact then stop buying milk in plastic containers. Nobody ever complains about milk.

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Since rental establishments like Blockbuster and Hollywood Video depend on renting the same DVD over and over, they will have to stock a huge inventory of these discs to meet customer demands. One disc per customer with these babies.

Yes...hense the problem. No returns. Available at the local grocery store. You get it.

[MOVIEGEEK]

I'm confused. Are you stating facts or opinions?

If fact then stop buying milk in plastic containers. Nobody ever complains about milk.

Having worked in retail for 15 years I've seen it all first hand and having a B.S. degree in environmental science/minor in business I have a decent grasp on what happens in the real world.

BTW...I buy my milk in a cardboard container.

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Since rental establishments like Blockbuster and Hollywood Video depend on renting the same DVD over and over, they will have to stock a huge inventory of these discs to meet customer demands. One disc per customer with these babies.

If this flies, those places are done. You will see these in Walmart, 7-11, Costco, Lowes, McDonalds, you'll get one free with a pizza order, you name it. The video store will be gone, like the old Drive-in theater....

Maybe. That's the issue on a pin head.

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I'm confused. Are you stating facts or opinions?

If fact then stop buying milk in plastic containers. Nobody ever complains about milk.

Having worked in retail for 15 years I've seen it all first hand and having a B.S. degree in environmental science/minor in business I have a decent grasp on what happens in the real world.

BTW...I buy my milk in a cardboard container.

Where? Those days are gone.

[MOVIEGEEK]

Where? Those days are gone.

Ahhh...here in the states you can still get a half gallon of milk in a cardboard container.