8 SPEED DVD -R DISCS

[NICEBUD]

CAN ANY ONE TELL ME WHERE I CAN BUY SOME 8X DVD - R DISCS.
ONLY IVE HAD MY POINEER A107 FOR NEARLY A MONTH NOW AND IM HAVING A LOT OF TROUBLE FINDING THESE DISCS.HOW LONG DOES
IT TAKE TO SAY YES YOU CAN HAVE THE DISCS(DVD-R FORUM OR HAVE THEY DONE A BROWN ENVOLUPE JOB UNDER THE TABLE TO HOLD UP THE PRODUCTION OF THESE DISCS SO PEOPLE MIGHT GET PI**ED
OFF WAITING AND GO OUT BUY THE CR*P DVD + R DISCS.
WHAT IS THE HOLD UP ? DOES ANYONE NO ?

[sunderland]

check this thread it might help you
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=205565

[sitlet]

calm down with the caps there

[lordsmurf]

CAN ANY ONE TELL ME WHERE I CAN BUY SOME 8X DVD - R DISCS.
ONLY IVE HAD MY POINEER A107 FOR NEARLY A MONTH NOW AND IM HAVING A LOT OF TROUBLE FINDING THESE DISCS.HOW LONG DOES
IT TAKE TO SAY YES YOU CAN HAVE THE DISCS(DVD-R FORUM OR HAVE THEY DONE A BROWN ENVOLUPE JOB UNDER THE TABLE TO HOLD UP THE PRODUCTION OF THESE DISCS SO PEOPLE MIGHT GET PI**ED
OFF WAITING AND GO OUT BUY THE CR*P DVD + R DISCS.
WHAT IS THE HOLD UP ? DOES ANYONE NO ?

Boo hoo. Wah Wah. Poor you. Having to spend all that time at 15 min per disc instead of 8 min. Oh, the humanity.

Patience required with a video hobby. Maybe this isn't for you.

I wish burners and discs were still expensive. There'd be less crap like this.

[holistic]

Boo hoo. Wah Wah. Poor you. Having to spend all that time at 15 min per disc instead of 8 min. Of god, the humanity.
Patience required with a video hobby. Maybe this isn't for you.
I wish burners and discs were still expensive. There'd be less crap like this.

Agreed. I don't believe most posters "are into the video hobby" as such .More like "backing up" the latest blockbuster releases.
Really now ! Just how many DVD does a person purchase to warrant instantaneous back ups.?

To quote Dennis : "Thats just my opinion, I could be wrong".....not

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[NICEBUD]

CAN ANY ONE TELL ME WHERE I CAN BUY SOME 8X DVD - R DISCS.
ONLY IVE HAD MY POINEER A107 FOR NEARLY A MONTH NOW AND IM HAVING A LOT OF TROUBLE FINDING THESE DISCS.HOW LONG DOES
IT TAKE TO SAY YES YOU CAN HAVE THE DISCS(DVD-R FORUM OR HAVE THEY DONE A BROWN ENVOLUPE JOB UNDER THE TABLE TO HOLD UP THE PRODUCTION OF THESE DISCS SO PEOPLE MIGHT GET PI**ED
OFF WAITING AND GO OUT BUY THE CR*P DVD + R DISCS.
WHAT IS THE HOLD UP ? DOES ANYONE NO ?

Boo hoo. Wah Wah. Poor you. Having to spend all that time at 15 min per disc instead of 8 min. Oh, the humanity.

Patience required with a video hobby. Maybe this isn't for you.

I wish burners and discs were still expensive. There'd be less crap like this.

I wish I could get the right answer.Not some old fart winjing about what we wright in these forums I mean I only asked.Still he must like all the OLD stuff and is happy living in the past burning at slower speeds.Move
out the way for NEW and stop moaning.

[-jsl-]

If you had formulated your original message with a more pleasant attitude you might have got better answers. Writing with CAPS LOCK and calling one format crap is good start if you want to be flamed...

[rhegedus]

Boo hoo. Wah Wah. Poor you. Having to spend all that time at 15 min per disc instead of 8 min. Oh, the humanity.

Patience required with a video hobby. Maybe this isn't for you.

I wish burners and discs were still expensive. There'd be less crap like this.

RESPECT! Now that post deserves capitals.

[sitlet]

do a search on this site and you'll find plenty on information. you can also try these things called stores. they sell these discs in exchange for money. if you do not like shoping in real stores, do a search online and find some online sites that sell 8x discs. there are plenty of those as well. if you are still having problems, then come back here and ask for more help

[garryheather]

A long time ago, I got a life. Then, when my 1x recorder (2x if I'm lucky) is going about its business, I go off and do something else instead.




Basically I refuse to bin perfectly good hardware because it's not cutting edge any more. It amazes me how many people post that their recorders are faulty because they can't burn at warp factor 9, only to then post back afterwards their discs don't work for various different reasons. Take it easy, guys, chill.

I mean, look how long the giant tortoise lives for.

[NICEBUD]

I love to keep up with new tech ideas the faster the better .And afterall if we all stuck with all the old stuff then there wont be any progress.
I don`t want to hacked firmware on my new drive because the warrenty.
Only im still having problems finding 8X MINUS R NOT +R.I dont want + r.

By the way Ive still had no answer on whats the hold up with 8X MINUS R
DISCS surly thier must be someone out there that knows.

PS if going to MOAN about what I wright DONT BOTHER.Because its waste
time.

[kabanero]

Only im still having problems finding 8X MINUS R NOT +R. I dont want + r.

Well, you chose your destiny with your Pioneer 107:

1. Only 2x ripping,
2. No 8x DVD-R disks,
3. No 4x burning on 2x DVD-R disks
4. No 8x burning on 4x DVD-R disks.

So, WHY THE HECK YOU COMPLAIN?

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On the other hand, I chose that CRAP DVD+R/RW format, and have LiteOn 811s. And I have:

1. 9x ripping
2. I can buy 8x DVD+R disks.
3. I can burn 2.4x DVD+R disks at 4x
4. I can burn 4x DVD+R disks at 8x
5. I can burn 8x DVD+R disks at 8x

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PIONEER.

[rhegedus]

PS if going to MOAN about what I wright DONT BOTHER.Because its waste time.

That's probably what your English teacher thought too!

Can't find any 8x media on the TDK or Verbatim web sites. There was a thread a while back about why widespread 8x -R is a long way off.

[Synergy]

Here's a first look at JVC 8X DVD-R discs (TYG02) actually made by Taiyo Yuden, that just appeared in Japan recently:

JVC 8X DVD-R Brief Review

Of course we all know that the availability of 8X DVD media (both + and - format) won't become widespread until Ritek and other Taiwanese manufacturers start shipping their products.

[bebrewer1]

Well, you chose your destiny with your Pioneer 107:

1. Only 2x ripping,
2. No 8x DVD-R disks,
3. No 4x burning on 2x DVD-R disks
4. No 8x burning on 4x DVD-R disks.

So, WHY THE HECK YOU COMPLAIN?

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On the other hand, I chose that CRAP DVD+R/RW format, and have LiteOn 811s. And I have:

1. 9x ripping
2. I can buy 8x DVD+R disks.
3. I can burn 2.4x DVD+R disks at 4x
4. I can burn 4x DVD+R disks at 8x
5. I can burn 8x DVD+R disks at 8x

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PIONEER.

Uhh, actually there was a firmware released by a very reliable source that will make your Pioneer 107 do 8X on both +R/-R and allows it to rip at 12X. I'm using this guys 105 4X -R 12X rip firmware and it has been working for thousands of people Here's the link to the 107 fw-

http://flashman.rpc-1.com/Firmware/PIONEER/DVR-107D/Patched/

[jurynel]

...and by the time you have decided it is time to stop getting blue in the face for holding up your breath for 8x's you will be yelling for 2x BLUERAY disks ! ! !

[sitlet]

Uhh, actually there was a firmware released by a very reliable source that will make your Pioneer 107 do 8X on both +R/-R and allows it to rip at 12X. I'm using this guys 105 4X -R 12X rip firmware and it has been working for thousands of people Here's the link to the 107 fw-

don`t want to hacked firmware on my new drive because the warrenty.

if you would actually read the threads before you post, you would have noticed that he said he doesnt want hacked firmware.

[lordsmurf]

with new tech ideas the faster the better ..

Bullshit. Typical novice. Newer is not always better, nor is faster.

[ccbadd]

You know, I thought this forum was for more than making home movies. Who the hell are you to say anything about how someone wants to use a product they put there money on the table for. Also, where did he mention video in his original post? Some people use these for data by the way and might like saving some time creating archives, especially when you might require > a few disks. 4 disks at 8 minutes means about 30 minutes of my time still available.

Boo hoo. Wah Wah. Poor you. Having to spend all that time at 15 min per disc instead of 8 min. Oh, the humanity.

Patience required with a video hobby. Maybe this isn't for you.

I wish burners and discs were still expensive. There'd be less crap like this.

As far as when the 8X -R media will be widely available, you will know it when you see it at a local store. Until then, all you get is speculation here and maybee some rumors. Also, +R media is not crap and you show your lack of knowledge n the subject by making such a vague statement.

[lordsmurf]

Also, +R media is not crap and you show your lack of knowledge n the subject by making such a vague statement.

I never said that. Read it again.

[Hardcoreruss]

Whereabouts are you ?

[rhegedus]

You know, I thought this forum was for more than making home movies. Who the hell are you to say anything about how someone wants to use a product they put there money on the table for. Also, where did he mention video in his original post? Some people use these for data by the way and might like saving some time creating archives, especially when you might require > a few disks. 4 disks at 8 minutes means about 30 minutes of my time still available.

As far as when the 8X -R media will be widely available, you will know it when you see it at a local store. Until then, all you get is speculation here and maybee some rumors. Also, +R media is not crap and you show your lack of knowledge n the subject by making such a vague statement.

Well, you can use +R for data as well, you know and the lead-in and out times are quicker than for -R, so if speed is of the essence -R is the wrong direction to look towards.

As for what the media is being used for, I'd take a wild guess that it is for backing-up video DVDs, this being a video forum...............

Smurfie's right - patience is a virtue. It appears to be in as short supply as 8x -R.

[ccbadd]

ccbadd wrote:
Also, +R media is not crap and you show your lack of knowledge n the subject by making such a vague statement.


I never said that. Read it again.

Lorsmurf, I was refering to NICEBUD's comment on + media not anything you said.

AND GO OUT BUY THE CR*P DVD + R DISCS.

[tompika]

Lorsmurf, I was refering to NICEBUD's comment on + media not anything you said.

You quoted Lordsmurf...

[SatStorm]

And it is not minus R. It is dash R! You read me? DASH R !!!!

[indolikaa]

I wish I could get the right answer.

Well, the last time I checked the DVD Forum had no codified the write strategy for 8X media...

Not some old fart winjing about what we wright in these forums I mean I only asked.

LordSmurf is an old fart? How do reach that conclusion? Is your estrogen level boiling over this morning?

Still he must like all the OLD stuff and is happy living in the past burning at slower speeds.

So do I.

There's nothing wrong with burning CDs at 12X and DVDs at 1X. And there's nothing wrong with my 8-year-old Sony television, my 16-year-old Dodge pickup, and my 32-year-old wife.

Move out the way for NEW and stop moaning.

I'm not convinced you've mastered the OLD technology. You certainly didn't do your homework, and judging by your English skills and keyboarding etiquette, you probably can't tell the difference between roast beef and horseshit.

Did you stop and even bother to find out if 8X media was available before you purchased this drive? I didn't think so.

Move along, people. Nothing to see here.

[triphop]

Pretty flamesy thread here...

Firstly saying that +R is crap is not going to make you any friends. There are some solid reasons why +R is *NOT* crap and the same applies to -R. I personally only purchase +R unless I know that a particular DVD application requires it [I have my reasons]

I would suggest that when you approach this forum do so with your brain engaged and with some humility. Also saying that perfectly good hardware is obsolete is not logical. Sure, its not cutting edge, but some of us prefer slow and steady. I also don't likely spending all my money on technology - I like going on vacation too :P

PS. There seems to an informed consensus that -R has some fundamental problems with high speed recording (something to do with track wobble). This may lead to a future when the -R media at the higher speeds is more expensive due to lower manufacturing tolerances.

[handyguy]

Funny, I mean people must search the net to find this forum, yet don't search the board for the topic they want which is left column: dvd media.

[indolikaa]

PS. There seems to an informed consensus that -R has some fundamental problems with high speed recording (something to do with track wobble).

The +RW Alliance has frequently referenced their expectation that they can develop higher-speed media in a shorter timeframe than the DVD Forum, and this is the argument they use.

I use both formats. I have nothing negative to say about either. There is harmony in my life. Even with DVD-RW, which I initially scorned but have now decided was the result of some firmware issues.

Let there peace in the DVD community.

Oh, I'd also like to mention I still burn CDs with my Teac 4X burner.

[Guest]

CAN ANY ONE TELL ME WHERE I CAN BUY SOME 8X DVD - R DISCS.
ONLY IVE HAD MY POINEER A107 FOR NEARLY A MONTH NOW AND IM HAVING A LOT OF TROUBLE FINDING THESE DISCS.HOW LONG DOES
IT TAKE TO SAY YES YOU CAN HAVE THE DISCS(DVD-R FORUM OR HAVE THEY DONE A BROWN ENVOLUPE JOB UNDER THE TABLE TO HOLD UP THE PRODUCTION OF THESE DISCS SO PEOPLE MIGHT GET PI**ED
OFF WAITING AND GO OUT BUY THE CR*P DVD + R DISCS.
WHAT IS THE HOLD UP ? DOES ANYONE NO ?

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50 ritechs for $70 might be pounds however, I think its a brit site